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On December 2011, it was proposed that this article be moved from Atheophobia to Discrimination against atheists. The result of the discussion was moved to restore established title per consensus.

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Prejudice vs. Discrimination

This article still has difficulty with the examples it uses to show discrimination... a lot of the examples demonstrate prejudice against atheists... but not discrimination. These are not the same. Prejudice is based on attitude... discrimination is based on action. The Turkish poll discussed above is a very good example of this. The poll shows that many Turks are prejudiced against atheists... but for this to be discrimination, they would have to act on this attitude (by, for example, not selling houses to atheists, or restricting them to a specific section of town).

atheitard, κωλάθεος, κωλοάθεος, αθεΐσκος and other dogmatic expletives (not necessarily against atheism)

atheisk: narrow minded and unimportant atheist**, *, *

but blacksters use the word Christfuck, Christ-fuck as a noun, adjective, verb and adverb along with many other vulgar slang terms

The Atheist Rap search engine problem

Some Slavs did something similar to Atheist Rap sub-genre of rap.
The Slavs of Atheist Rap band (not the Anglophone atheistic sub-genre of rap) use an Anglophone name, and 1. don't play rap but most crucially 2. they lower very much the search engine rankings of the atheistic rap as a music genre. Unwantedly. They speak in some Slavic tongue, but they use a title of a musical genre which already suffers!!!
Atheist rap exists as a genre, but you have to be patient and know before it exists. The Slavs appear even if you don't ask specifically for happy slavic music.

to be rephrased content by IP editor (no source either)

in South Africa Atheism is being targeted based on their believes. in 2018 Christians targeted an Atheist because their are not Christian a shop in Cape Town they was sing that says Christians-only and other shops and Businesses public places that Atheist people are segregated. people killed 50% Atheists in Johannesburg 49% in Pretoria 77% in Durban and 97% in Cape Town. an christian organization protest against atheists with the slogan "God does exist" and police open fire on the protesters for looting and violence. Genuineditor (talk) 13:44, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps add a section for Oceania?

While this may not be a very big issue, could we please make a section for Oceania under Present day? This page obviously tries to include all areas of countries, but it is missing, at the very least, a paragraph on Oceania as a whole. Data Devourer (talk) 01:22, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]