Talk:Mineral (nutrient)

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What kind of minerals in Water purification for Drinking water

In Water purification for Drinking water is by act, regulation, decree: enrich with minerals and level up the Ph (to about 7 and more; seven is called ´neutral´), with standard chemical materials. 

But, sorry, with what kind of minerals, please ? Thanks. 

--Visionhelp (talk) 10:44, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Visionhelp The Water purification article you identified describes minerals used to adjust pH, and separately, potential health problems from drinking demineralized water because of the removal of calcium and magnesium. I hope that answers your questions. David notMD (talk) 14:44, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply] 

David notMD. Thanks. At ´ph adjustment´ "If the water is acidic (lower than 7), lime, soda ash, or sodium hydroxide.": These are minerals ? For the human bodies health, short or long terms ? And to ph7 is not adjusted for the body health. And then still it is a very different thing to physically process (a) water, as flowing over stones or similar, to ph7 than to adjust it with stuffs. 

These are the reasons to add those stuffs (´Demineralized water´): "Demineralized water may also increase the risk from toxic metals because it more readily leaches materials from piping like lead and cadmium, which is prevented by dissolved minerals such as calcium and magnesium. Low-mineral water has been implicated in specific cases of lead poisoning in infants, when lead from pipes leached at especially high rates into the water. Demineralized water may also increase the risk from toxic metals because it more readily leaches materials from piping like lead and cadmium, which is prevented by dissolved minerals such as calcium and magnesium. Low-mineral water has been implicated in specific cases of lead poisoning in infants, when lead from pipes leached at especially high rates into the water." 

There are two opinions in the world, let me say. Noted at ´Safety and controversies´. And it is about our existential health, this very controversies may not have them being cleared up (1). Demineralized water may also increase the risk from toxic metals because it more readily leaches materials from piping like lead and cadmium, which is prevented by dissolved minerals such as calcium and magnesium. Low-mineral water has been implicated in specific cases of lead poisoning in infants, when lead from pipes leached at especially high rates into the water
But with representing the minerals in plants (food), changed by the plants from the inorganic minerals in the soil, at least this organic minerals could/might be mentioned correctly as organic minerals, for to let know at all, that those (very) different minerals exists. Thanks. 

(1) I hope, we are not within this conflict. --Visionhelp (talk) 03:14, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure what your questions are, but go ahead and edit the articles (properly referencing) if you believe an improvement is possible. Be aware that for any health-related statements there is a high standard for references to be considered reliable sources. See WP:MEDRS. This is true if there is a controversy, such as demineralized water being good for health or bad for health. David notMD (talk) 08:56, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Intention: finding (a) clear up this controversy. Health needs clearness, clarification.
I do not edit in articles from others. In regard of style and respect.
--Visionhelp (talk) 11:22, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think, I did find it now happyly here: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikronährstoff_(Medizin); translation to english translate de en Mikronährstoff (Medizin).
Quote: "´Role in metabolism´
Micronutrients are involved in the metabolism within the cells and thus in the basic functions of the biological body , such as cell growth and the associated renewal of skin, bones, muscles, blood cells , nerve conduction and the formation of secretions and messenger substances .

Some micronutrients act as cofactors ; H. Low molecular weight substances that contribute to a biochemical reaction (e.g. vitamin K for reactions of γ-glutamyl carboxylase ), others such as niacin form building blocks of various coenzymes ( NAD , NADP ), some derivatives of vitamins serve directly as coenzymes (e.g. Ubiquinon-10 or Coenzyme Q10) or are z. B. in fermentation processes such as sourdough - fermentation by yeast cells(e.g. acetyl-coenzyme A , activated acetic acid from yeast cells). Micronutrients are therefore essential for the function of certain enzymes or exogenous and endogenous enzyme reactions . Others are components for hormones (e.g. iodine as a component of the thyroid hormone ), as electrolytes, or as antioxidants ."
--Visionhelp (talk) 10:41, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

But connections and relations of vitamins and minerals (nutrient) (trace elements) should be to find at micronutrient. (But I am not quite sure about this, sorry.)
--Visionhelp (talk) 02:58, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To (at least) external links ?

--Visionhelp (talk) 10:51, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Of the four suggested additions to External links, I agree with only the second. Wikipedia should not connect to other encyclopedias (the third suggestion) or to YouTube (the fourth). David notMD (talk) 14:48, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply] 

Sorry. Isn´t it about knowledge at wikipedia ? And reliable and trustable sources ? And ´External links´ ? 

--Visionhelp (talk) 03:21, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia rarely considers Youtube content a reliable source because anyone can create content. Wikipedia does not cite other encyclopedias. External Links in general not to be a stack of links, but rather a few items that could not be incorporated as references. David notMD (talk) 08:47, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Visionhelp Please do not indent by leaving a space before your content, as that creates content in boxes. The asterisks are enough. When you are adding reply comments, then at the beginning add more more : than the preceding comment. David notMD (talk) 08:50, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Here is a properly indented follow-up comment. David notMD (talk) 08:52, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
And another. David notMD (talk) 08:52, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]


(To (at least) ´External links´ ? Or: To ´See also´. Suggestion.)

--Visionhelp (talk) 09:14, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion, no to the first (any evidence for healing clay does not meet WP:MEDRS and no to the second, because silicon already mentioned in a table of possibly essential minerals. David notMD (talk) 21:59, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OK. There is a wikipedia article about Healing clay (Medicinal clay) with its own sayings, despite not meeting WP:MEDRS as You say. As Boron as well, I assume. OK.
"mentioned": yes, but nothing more saying sadnessly, as here for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon#Human_nutrition
--Visionhelp (talk) 02:12, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

UL for Magnesium seems incorrect

If RDA is 420, then UL must be equal to or greater than RDA, so 350 seems incorrect. 2601:CD:C480:1BB0:7D28:D223:E51:B32B (talk) 04:19, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For posterity, similar question/answer here Talk:Dietary_Reference_Intake#Mg_RDA_>_UL_? 2601:CD:C480:1BB0:7D28:D223:E51:B32B (talk) 05:00, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Asked and answered in 2016: "Very briefly, if a large amount is consumed all at once, as with a dietary supplement, little is absorbed, and what is not absorbed passes through to the large intestine where it causes watery stools and diarrhea. The U.S. UL is set at 350 mg." That applies only to consumption as a dietary supplement. The adult RDA of 420 mg/day can be achieved via diet with or without a smaller supplement. For European Union, UL is also smaller than the recommended intake. David notMD (talk) 10:29, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

sulfur and chlorine

Why isn't sulfur mentioned in this article? And why is chlorine (as chloride ion) not considered a macronutrient? 2601:8A:4001:670:0:0:0:B20E (talk) 00:05, 4 March 2022 (UTC) Norm Mikalac— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:8A:4001:670:0:0:0:B20E (talk) 22:28, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Iron, for oxygen providing the most organs and parts of the body

Iron, the WHO says, is the most nutrient deficiency in the world.
The most parts of the body providing with oxygen, over oxygen transport to over the blood circle (and not to forget the used oxygen transport from), is the most important nutrient, which the body requires, to work short and long term properly, through being provided with oxygen.
Not only for the organs and parts of the body alone directly, because of the work these organs and parts of the body do, which require for this work and processes this oxygen also. And more than just sufficient.
(The usual lot of oxygen breathing does the body provide more with oxygen, the more (enough) iron the body is provided with. Note: Vitamin C does support the intake of iron.)
Sorry, the wording "organs and parts of the body" I just cannot do better exactly.
I just intend to indicate this connection, this knowledge, this just easy understandable way, please. (I could figure it out this way by myself, so I cannot search for sources and cannot name sources. Sorry, please.
To mention still: in Germany does exist a natural herbs product for iron deficiency, for pregnants and ´similar´ urgent need, if OK to note to. From other countries I cannot say.)
Visionhelp (talk) 04:38, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Visionhelp The table in this article is not meant to elaborate on the functions of iron. See Iron and Iron in biology for more details. David notMD (talk) 11:03, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks the link, special ´in biology´.
At ´Roles in biological processes´ it should be mentioned, I think, at least short, but each relevant point TO the point. (It surely can be done short/er, but at his time I focus on to present clear, to understand at all first WELL, these coherences.)
How to put it now to Iron in biology or/and to Iron deficiency: at the moment I realize this only ´just´ as challenge.
Visionhelp (talk) 08:44, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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