Talk:Claire Guichard

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The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by Serial Number 54129 talk 17:22, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that Claire Guichard replaced future French Prime Minister Gabriel Attal in the French Parliament? Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67958286
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Stephen Gould (tenor)

Created by Moondragon21 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:12, 23 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Claire Guichard; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• @Moondragon21: Based on DYKcheck: prose size fulfills criteria (2569 characters), article is recent enough. Suggest changing future to current in the hook.
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  ALT1:... that parliament member Claire Guichard once played in the miniseries Entre terre et mer? Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 23:51, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
  • @Jeromi Mikhael: Good idea, I support changing future to current for logical sense. Moondragon21 talk 17:37, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
• @Moondragon21: Multiple short, uncited paragraphs in the Political career section need citations before this can be approved. ALT1 hook fact does not check out in supplied source. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:56, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
  • @Sammi Brie: I have now added citations. Moondragon21 talk 06:38 22 February 2024 (UTC)
    • @Moondragon21: The paragraph "In the National Assembly, she sits..." is still devoid of any citations. The Entre terre et mer fact is still not checking out to that source. ALT0 needs a minor rewording, probably the delinking of "French Prime Minister" and changing to "prime minister", to avoid a WP:SEAOFBLUE issue. Note: Your ping did not work: please sign your name normally with ~~~~ in the same edit as the ping. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:44, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

• @Moondragon21: Please address the above, or this may be closed as unsuccessful. Z1720 (talk) 18:21, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

• @Z1720: The citations have been added to the paragraph but I am not sure how to rewrite the ALT0. Moondragon21 (talk) 18:25, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

• ALT0a ... that Claire Guichard replaced Gabriel Attal as the Prime Minister of France in the French Parliament?
• ALT0b ... that Claire Guichard replaced Gabriel Attal as the Prime Minister of France?

@Sammi Brie: Either of these alts approved? Is there anything else that needs to be done to get this approved? Z1720 (talk) 18:29, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

• • @Z1720: These seem to introduce an error. Guichard was not a PM. ALT0c: Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:42, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
    • ALT0c: ... that Claire Guichard entered the French parliament when Gabriel Attal was appointed Prime Minister?

Review: Well, I came to review but hold on. So the only hook to survive the Thermidore above (geddit?!) is one saying, effectively, that 'Person A started a job at the same time as Person B'? Does this fulfil the (admittedly subjective) criterion of an 'interesting hook'? (And, incidentally, do we allow hooks that merely describe people doing their jobs?) @Jeromi Mikhael, Moondragon21, Sammi Brie, and Z1720: ——Serial Number 54129 15:46, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: Given that this has been stuck for a while, I'm giving a stab at a hook that combines ALT1's fact and the Gabriel angle since there's a concern about the hook being "a hook about doing her job".

ALT2 ... that Claire Guichard, who replaced Gabriel Attal in the latter's seat after he was appointed Prime Minister of France, was an actress before entering politics?

I understand that she wasn't really an actress in her previous career, but I guess it still makes it hookier? I'm not sure if the other article issues have been resolved yet, but maybe this would help move the nomination along? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:10, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Striking ALT1 and ALT2 as factually inaccurate per [1] and all variants of ALT0 as boring (she was always going to replace someone as PM).--Launchballer 13:27, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

@Launchballer: Regrettably I would recommend that the nomination be marked for closure as there doesn't seem to be anything else that's hooky in the article so far. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 17:15, 22 March 2024 (UTC)