Talk:Chūshingura

Seasonal Association?

A japanese acquiantance of mine (who recommended this film to me - wonder which one is considered the "main" one?) mentioned that, if I understood her correctly, this film is associated with the winter. She likened it to US films that we associated with christmas, and play during that season. She indicated that this film might be shown on TV in the winter in Japan. Is this the case? Did I perhaps misunderstand? If this is so, perhaps it could be of note here in the article. Dxco 02:42, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the break-in occurred on December 15 according to the old calendar, and Chushingura is popular around that time of the year. It is worth noting. Thank you for the suggestion. Fg2 04:15, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Drama?

This seems a fine start, but it doesn't go into much detail about the individual plays based on the story. As Forty-seven Ronin already tells the real story, this article should focus on the dramas, and the films/TV productions it inspired, yes? Or we can spin-off separate new articles for the kabuki/bunraku play, if we think it's going to unbalance the treatment of the overall topic as regards perceptions of the classic story, and the TV/film versions. LordAmeth 10:09, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree that this article should focus on fiction while Forty-seven Ronin concentrates on fact. Which would you prefer, to put fictional works together in this article, or to give them separate articles? I'm open to both, or a hybrid approach. (There's already The 47 Ronin as an example of how separate articles might begin.) Fg2 10:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I really don't mind it all being stuck together here, though it definitely does need expansion, and that might make it get overlong. If we do split off into separate articles, which might be best, I think the bunraku & kabuki plays Kanadehon Chūshingura should probably be kept together, as the kabuki one is essentially a direct adaptation of the puppet theater version. I'll see what I come up with as I continue to make my way, aimlessly, circuitously around various related topics. LordAmeth 11:41, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

A separate article on that one would make good sense. It's the granddaddy of the popular chushingura plays. Fg2 12:04, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

2014 American film

The recently released film's screenplay seems to have almost nothing to do with the traditional storyline of the 47. Perhaps this should be addressed in the article? 24.9.237.174 (talk) 17:40, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Done. The film is utter garbage, an insult to the original play and Japanese sensibilities. It barely merits mention in the article, but mention has been retained regardless. Jun Kayama 07:15, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Potential copyvio from 2007?

Hi, and hope you're well! What should we do with the § Kabuki section of this article? It says that it was reproduced by permission...and was added way back in 2007 (Special:Diff/176124849). If it is indeed a copyvio, over a decade's worth of edit history would be hidden, so I'm not sure what the best way to handle this is. If you need more info, please feel free to ping. Thank you! Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 20:23, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

@Rotideypoc41352: Thank you for reporting this. It's astonishing that this has remained in the article unquestioned for over 15 years. We certainly can't accept potentially copyright-infringing text on the unsubstantiated say-so of an anonymous editor, who says that it's reproduced with permission, but gives no evidence, nor even says who gave permission. I have therefore removed the section. I don't think hiding 15 years' worth of revision history from the record would be helpful, so I think the best thing to do is leave it there, and hope that nobody restores it. If anyone does, then obviously we'll need to reconsider what to do. JBW (talk) 15:51, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Sounds good. Thank you! Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 16:03, 25 January 2023 (UTC)