Talk:Center for Auto Safety

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Accomplishments

I've added the Ford Pinto recall back in as an accomplishment, reversing this edit: 14:34, 17 May 2012‎ Hatzie .... (Remove Ford Pinto reference. This defect was brought to the public attention by Mother Jones News not Nader.). The history on this is well-documented that the Center for Auto Safety submitted a petition about the Pinto defect several years before the Mother Jones article, & the CAS also resubmitted the petition after the article was published. Whomever "brought [this issue] to the public attention" isn't nearly as relevant for this Accomplishments section as is the fact that the CAS is responsible for why the Pinto recall occurred at all. Jmathis555 (talk) 19:01, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What the linked Wikipedia article proves is... This is an accomplishment of Mother Jones. Ralph Nader was the contributing editorial writer. Was CAS a part of the recall? YES! Was CAS the initiator of the extreme media attention and the subsequent government regulatory kerflufflel? NO! CAS was a contributor. Ralph Nader was the Initiator via Mother Jones NOT CAS. I find it very interesting that your referenced article also calls the scientific validity of the NHTSA test methods to support this recall into question... They had to tailor the test to create the necessary conditions for fire... similar to the NBC Nightline manufactured "evidence" of the GM Light Truck sidesaddle fuel tank fire threat. NBC was sued as a result of their manufactured evidence yet the NHTSA is not held to account for the same kind of intellectual fraud. Tests are standardized for a reason. It makes the test results meaningful. Comparing Apples to Oranges is scientifically worthless. Lauding the fact that someone was able to create an environment where these government functionaries bypassed the scientific method to garner a desired outcome is morally bankrupt.Hatzie (talk) 14:39, 1 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]