Talk:Catturd

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Birthdate inclusion

Elli, you removed the birthdate on the basis that it's a primary source. Birthdates are occasionally derived from calculations (allowed via WP:CALC) when there are no secondary sources listing the birthdate but the person publishes it themselves. Do you raise an issue with the correctness or faithful reflection of the sources? SWinxy (talk) 01:46, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@SWinxy: I don't doubt the accuracy here but given that we're deriving this from multiple tweets inclusion seems to be a bit iffy with regards to WP:BLPPRIVACY. I won't revert if you want to reinstate it but I'd suggest asking at WP:BLPN before doing so. Elli (talk | contribs) 02:01, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Coincidentally there's a discussion there related to DoB inference on the noticeboard. BLPPRIVACY cautions against things that the subject would reasonably want made private (when ...it may reasonably be inferred that the subject does not object to the details being made public), so I would argue that publishing your birth day to a large public audience gives an implicit allowability. I've seen including a CALC birthday been done before where there has been consensus that they pass under CALC and BLPPRIVACY (e.g. Dream (YouTuber) iirc). SWinxy (talk) 02:19, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have a super strong opinion on this, so I'm not going to challenge you if you want to re-add it. Elli (talk | contribs) 03:03, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't meant to be combative or anything! It was a good decision to remove the PS listing his name. SWinxy (talk) 19:00, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why does this page exist?

I suggest this article should be nominated for deletion as 'twitter shitposter and internet troll', even if backed up with credible sources, is not a credible claim of significance. Fnuciton (talk) 20:21, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Fnuciton: if you think the page should be deleted, feel free to nominate it at WP:AFD. Elli (talk | contribs) 20:26, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Why do you exist? 67.253.0.223 (talk) 09:58, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. This is stupid. 104.54.220.196 (talk) 04:47, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Phillip Buchanan

Isn't the person who runs the account Phillip Buchanan? I noticed that it had been apart of the article earlier but was removed and I'm unsure as to why. I noticed that the source from OpenCorporates showing Buchanan as being the sole owner of "CATTURD, LLC." was described as having needed a better citation, I'm not too sure what it meant since you can confirm this from looking at the CATTURD, LLC. snapshot report on Sunbiz, could someone help me out here? B3251 (talk) 00:42, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's what's been said online and listed in filings, but per WP:BLPPRIVACY, only include when full names and dates of birth that have been widely published by reliable sources, or by sources linked to the subject such that it may reasonably be inferred that the subject does not object to the details being made public. He definitely would object to his name being included, but he's tweeted about his birthday and age, so it can go in. SWinxy (talk) 00:59, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the reply, makes sense! B3251 (talk) 01:43, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BLPPRIVACY pertains to publishing of personal information that could lead to identity theft, such as a full name (ie middle name included) or date of birth. Buchanan has self-published his date of birth. It's not an issue to include the real name of the online handle, any more than it is to include Chaya Raichik's name on the Libs of TikTok article. Wes sideman (talk) 14:02, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is an attack piece

Too far left leaning you’re not fooling anyone wiki 2001:48F8:1015:59D:D5A4:D769:96A2:1B76 (talk) 11:04, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As per the revelant policy, an attack page is "entirely negative in tone and unsourced or poorly sourced." While the tone could be adjusted, and I recommend you make an account yourself and acquire the necessary permissions (autoconfirmed is not a high hurdle), the point about the page being poorly sourced is patently untrue. This is an extremely well sourced article, in line with as would be expected. ZachT1234 (talk) 16:01, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Room for Article Improvement

I feel as though the article could be improved by making reference to his ongoing podcast, and his appearance on the podcast hosted by Tucker Carlson. I would like to approach this inline with the best practices set forth in WP:BLP, acknowledging that IMDB is generally not a reliable source in biographies of living people. Upon finding more reputable sources, I plan on making proper, bold edits in the appropriate section. ZachT1234 (talk) 16:18, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Go for mentioning his podcast. I think it's fine to cite IMDb for him having one, since it's low-stakes (factual) information. His appearance on Carlson's own podcast is not worth mentioning; we don't make note of appearances. SWinxy (talk) 17:54, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disinformation?

Do you say the same about MSNBC? 73.124.115.208 (talk) 03:40, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What does this sentence mean? It is incomprehensible,and not English

"The Twitter handle @catturd had been taken in 2010, and denied from being the poster of the suspended account @CATTURD1."

Is/are "@catturd", "@CATTURD1", and "CATTURD2" suposed to be the same person? Totally baffled. 24.47.49.74 (talk) 00:19, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Thanks for pointing it out. It means to say that @catturd and @CATTURD1 were both registered accounts on Twitter. https://twitter.com/catturd is an account, while https://twitter.com/CATTURD1 is suspended. Catturd (i.e. Buchanan) says he wasn't in charge of @CATTURD1, but the Rolling Stone article didn't explicitly say they were different people. SWinxy (talk) 03:42, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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