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Funeral

Does anybody have any sources on his funeral procession being "the last large-scale public demonstration of anarchist strength"? Orwell mentions, "A short time earlier [than 1 May 1937] a C.N.T. member had been murdered, and the C.N.T. had turned out in hundreds of thousands to follow the cortege." ([1]) I'm not sure when Durruti's funeral was, but it seems like a short time earlier than 1 May would put the body of someone that died on 20 November in pretty bad shape... Washod (talk) 15:24, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Hugh Thomas' seminal work, The Spanish Civil War (around page 416) is I believe the source for this description of the funeral as the 'last large-scale..." - I'll have to check to be sure. The funeral was on 23 November and was attended by more than a half-million people. There is documentary footage of the funeral, narrated appparently by Emma Goldman. Zerodeconduite (talk) 21:32, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Trip to Argentina?

Seems I recall reading in Abel Paz' book that he, Ascasco and other took a trip to Argentina in 1927 during which time they contemplated taking over the ship as a gesture of solidarity with with Sacco & Vanzetti, but abandoned the scheme, deciding it was not tactically feasible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.16.188.200 (talk) 05:34, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Death

According to Anthony Beever, the sniper story really is a myth: "The cocking handle of a companion's machine pistol caught on a car door, firing ino his chest."radek 01:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

This is almost certainly also a myth. The truth will, sadly, never be known.

Abel Paz' book has a complete overview of all the different theories, and that's his conclusion. Worth the read if you can stomach a lot of ideological cant... of a different (namely, old style anarchist) school than usual. 79.233.50.96 (talk) 16:04, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I have read that Durriti was killed for political reasons by the Communists...but I have only one source for this (Arnaud Imatz). Are there others? 99.240.142.65 (talk) 22:58, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

If there are differing versions of Durruti's death then these should be presented as such without taking sides. The way the article is worded now one version is given as definitive, one version is presented as a "lie", and another version is presented as a "claim". This is an obvious POV problem and should be edited so that the article provides an objective presentation of differing accounts with the sources clearly given without prejudice for or against any version (unless, of course, further evidence can be brought to bear that clearly favors or disfavors one or more versions). --Durruti36 (talk) 20:36, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

I always heared that the shot came from his own machine pistol, when he was going out of the car — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.156.92.214 (talk) 00:38, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Political/philosophical views.

It would be useful to add a section on this. Yes, we know he's an anarcho-syndicalist, but specifics would be very useful. Very few anarchists can have their views summed up simply by the general ideology. Zazaban (talk) 22:20, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Very few anarchists had to take up arms to defend themselves and their comrades while being shot at by fascists in 1936. Very many refer to this period, which remains poorly referenced. If you do not know the history of the Spanish Revolution, of the Spanish Civil War, you cannot begin to write the history of Durruti. Tothebarricades (talk) 00:25, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

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War discipline by anarchist Durruti

from a phd in contrast, the Anarchist leader Buenaventura Durruti attempted to impose order within his unit. He insisted that militia delegates be obeyed, and took measures to ensure that each militiaman was pulling his weight, for example investigating whether a soldier claiming illness was really sick or just malingering, with the latter given extra work. Finally, though following standard Anarchist practice of permitting militiamen to leave the unit, he made this difficult and humiliating:for example, a soldier who wanted to return home (and home was potentially as far as Barcelona, a few hundred kilometres away) would have to go on foot. Durruti also forcefully detained men attempting to leave the front with arms. Apparently, few soldiers deserted from the Durruti column under such circumstances.

i fear that his -not so anarchist for some- practices is the only reason that this article are not included.Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 18:28, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

This is my impression from reading Enzensberger's book, that contains his own accounts, primary sources, and assessments by academics. ——Chalk19 (talk) 08:28, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Chalk19 About his death that he was killed from his comrades? Please tell me the pages then to add it. Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 11:45, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
About discipline among his troops. ——Chalk19 (talk) 12:02, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
ok.Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 12:19, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

war discipline

Thank you Pudeo for your contribution. Please help me if you have some time to spend if we can also add something for his rough militant discipline which was similar to communist militia men from here: Desertion, Control and Collective Action in Civil Wars, Doctor of Philosophy Theodore McLauchlin

  • In contrast, the Anarchist leader Buenaventura Durruti attempted to impose order within his unit. He insisted that militia delegates be obeyed, and took measures to ensure that each militiaman was pulling his weight, for example investigating whether a soldier claiming illness was really sick or just malingering, with the latter given extra work. Finally, though following standard Anarchist practice of permitting militiamen to leave the unit, he made this difficult and humiliating: for example, a soldier who wanted to return home (and home was potentially as far as Barcelona, a few hundred kilometres away) would have to go on foot. Durruti also forcefully detained men attempting to leave the front with arms. Apparently, few soldiers deserted from the Durruti column under such circumstances.19 For the Durruti column, then, taking a firm stance against exiting the unit was part and parcel of a broader departure from typical Anarchist practices of free movement.As time went on, other anarchist

In this phd thesis there are plenty of not so much anarchist actions of Durruti. I fear that there is for some reasons simple facts is very difficult to add them in engish WP.

Just to note that there were some rumors that an anarchist comrade killed him cause he didn't like his discipline. But unfortunately for years in English WP the opposite rumor(!!) (that he was killed from Communists)was the main WP voice. Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 09:54, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

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