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Does this apply only to Britain? If so, it should say so. Michael Hardy 02:36, 1 Nov 2003 (UTC)

It also applies to South Africa. 168.209.98.35 16:11, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

List of countries and territories using box junctions now included in article. -- Picapica 11:40, 17 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't it also used in some intersections in New York City, albeit with white lines instead of yellow? -- SwissCelt 18:45, 27 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I remember seeing signs in New York City that stated "Don't block the box".

Forgot to sign, sorry --Soylentyellow 21:51, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"No special signs, markings, or other traffic control devices are used to indicate this." In California, partially wrong. Some intersections actually have "DO NOT BLOCK INTERSECTION" black on white signs, while others say "RIGHT TURN ON RED AFTER ONCOMING TRAFFIC CLEARS" in white on red, such as in the Sycamore Avenue intersection with San Pablo Avenue in Hercules, CA. --Geopgeop 12:15, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also we have box junctions in Vancouver therefore I'm changing toronto to Canada, since most would agree that Vancouver is not part of toronto.

California reference

I removed the reference to California as its situation is also found in most other US states. Do other English-speaking countries use R10-7 / "Do Not Block Intersection" signing? If so, we should remove the reference to US States. Other modifications to this portion include its phrasing, which insinuated that laws specifically ban gridlocking. Such a law would be virtually impossible to enforce, which is why laws target the causes rather than the result. This includes California's law. Gridlock is not illegal; but the steps leading up to it are. Lastly, I removed "local" from "local governments", because the jurisdiction can vary: muncipalities, counties, and/or states may be authorised to install signs on roadways. "Local" tends to refer to municipal or county governments; not state. --Thisisbossi 19:33, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I see your point with regard to the misleading phrasing. I also see your point regarding signage on state roadways, since many Eastern states maintain a much larger percentage of arterial roads than California. Starting in the 1980s, Caltrans has relinquished nearly all urban arterial highways to local governments, so that decisions about maintenance and upgrades can be made faster by local governments rather than having to go through the labyrinthine Caltrans bureaucracy.

But the reference should remain as an example of one such specific law. Otherwise the paragraph is completely unsupported! --Coolcaesar 04:51, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree: link returned. --Thisisbossi 10:29, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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