Talk:Bodyboarding

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Vandalism

Someone is messing with these pages, trying to show that some Leio Gai is of some importance to bodyboarding. This is pure vandalism. The author is trying to promote perhaps himself or a friend. I´ll be reverting those edits until it stops. Regards.

Same goes for any further changes to the list of top regarded modern bodyboarders. There have been several attempts to put unknown people into this list.

User "Mark" has repeatedly attacked this page with unsubstantiated edits and locked the page unnecessarily. All edits he has done have been biased therefore, the community requests that he remove himself from further edits until he can show that his efforts are without malice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anselmogunn (talk • contribs) 17:56, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lame sentence

"There was only one thing the revolution didn´t change. It is the thing that makes bodyboarding such great surfing sport. It´s the thing bodyboarding is all about: Tube riding!" Who wrote this? Its dumb. Someone fix it.

Yes, it is. I think I wrote it!!! Can´t remember. I´m working on a complete overhaul on the bodyboarding article. I´ve bought a few hard-copy books on the subject, and will be making this article a lot more professional looking. Just wait! Loudenvier 14:58, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

More lame stuff

"The wave is a ramp!" A lot of this article is written as if by a 15 year-old. While enthusiasm for the sport is to be encouraged, at the end of the day this is an encyclopedia, not a magazine. Also, a lot of the comments about specific bodyboarders are grossly biased and very far from objective, e.g. Mike Stewart. Will keep an eye on this. --Ghostreveries 12:14, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There´s no POV towards Mike Stewart. He is 9 time world champion (prior to the world tour) and is regarded by ALL (consensus) to be the greatest name in bodyboarding. Guilherme Tamega is a 6 time world champion (after the world tour was established), and there´s no POV again. Those comments about those specific bodyboarders could be rephrased but it would be a big mistake to refrain from depicting their importance and prominence in the sport. On the other hand, this article was hastly edited, and it is very unencyclopaedic. Much rework is necessary to bring this article to wikipedia standard. Keep in mind that it´s not only the phrasing that is poor, the article also lacks in facts. For example, the historical section is inaccurate, lacking lots of information about bodyboard in ancient times (paipo board). I´m now working mostly on the Boxer article, but will soon be back into the bodyboarding to help improving it. Things I plan to work on:
1) Rephrase things like "the wake is a ramp"
2) Introduce more technical details about board design
3) Make a more complete and accurate historical section
4) Remove the list of bodyboarders and keep only world champions (this will make an objective list)
5) Remove spams from the External Links section
6) Rephrase description of old-school and new-school
7) Include references using < ref > tags as per wikipedia current style guide
Hope you (all) could help me accomplish this Loudenvier 13:54, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
8) Sorry to say that guys, but Hawaii is not a country. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.68.108.179 (talk) 21:39, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't for one second doubt the significance of Mike Stewart's achievements nor the greatness of Tamega; it is the form of praise given to them that is in question. I agree though that this is a team effort, I will do my best to contribute positively to this page when work is not looking! -- Ghostreveries 10:20, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of bodyboarders

I think it's time to clean-up this list of "NOTABLE" bodyboarders. There must be objective parameters to list people on the list:

  • Any world-champion (Stewart, Barcellos, Tâmega, King, Botha...)
  • Any bodyboarder to have won an IBA tour sanctioned event
  • Any national bodyboarder champion (South African champion, Australian Champion, UK Champion, Brazillian champion, Peruvian champion..)
  • The top 16 (or 30) riders of the last year (today it would be the top 16 from 2005 [1])

Any other bodyboarder, no matter what, will not make into the list. This is the only way to keep the list from infringing wikipedia policies of no original research and NPOV. Regards Loudenvier 20:26, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This list seems to be missing many of the early more notable bodyboarders, particularly many of Asian descent that hailed from Southern California and Hawaii.

No, this list does not seems to be missing many notable bodyboarders. In fact, the list has many non-notable bodyboarders. Notable is not the same as good. While Guilherme Tâmega, Paulo Barcellos, Mike Stewart and Ryan Hardy can be considered without doubt notable bodyboarders, Zé Otávio, Giuliano Lara, and many other bodyboarders who are very good but haven't internation expression couldn't be considered notable for inclusion in the wikipedia bodyboarding article. Less is more sometimes. Regards. Loudenvier 14:35, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bodyboarding Locations

Why is Aruba featured as a prominent location? Aruba is far from a popular travel destination for bodyboarders. I have never seen Aruba covered in any American or Australian bodyboard magazine in the 20 years I've been a part of the sport. This seems to be page vandalism by edit happy Aruba locals. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.15.51.198 (talk) 20:41, 25 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Complete lack of sources or references!

Come on, Wikipedia... this seems like a good article... but there's no way to tell if any of it is true. Jpp42 08:02, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Six months later and this article is still in serious breach of Wikipedia's core policy on verifiability. A good example is the "Famous bodyboarding locations" which appears to be pure original research. Unless proper references are added soon, I will reduce the entire article to a stub. Thanks, Gwernol 09:42, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Boogieboard?

Is this another term for it, I hear it used occasionally. Is it a genericized trademark? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.75.187.196 (talk) 06:23, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. It's more of a brand name for bodyboarding. Just like "Kleenex" is used to describe tissues, many people use "boogie board" to describe bodyboarding.--KangAK (talk) 04:26, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Australian Bodyboarders

This section is completely unreferenced, the subjects don't have pages. Will remove section if no argument. Recurring dreams (talk) 11:30, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is this the same as waterboarding?

Is this one of the activities sometimes refered to as waterboarding? I think a disambig page Waterboarding(recreational activity) should point here.Geo8rge (talk) 16:06, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

External links

I went through the article's bloated external links section. I compared the Alexa web rankings of all of the links in there. I removed all the sites that had low rankings and either hadn't been updated recently or appeared to be commercial sites selling bodyboarding paraphernalia, per WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Since then, and until I semi-protected this article, anonymous users have been undoing my change, reinstating that full, spamalicious external links section. Is there any particular external link I removed which should be reinstated to the external links section? - Mark 06:47, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mark, you show clear and discrimiate bias in the links that you have chosen to remain on the links section and they will consequently be reupdated until you stop hijacking this section and let the public choose to update this as clearly stated. A reference has been cited of your chosen bias and will be moderated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.215.161.150 (talk) 08:40, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't answer my question. Is there a particular external link which you think should remain on the article? Here is the full list of external links that existed in the article, sorted from the best to the worst Alexa traffic rank (which is slightly helpful at gauging a page's popularity). I have also added my rationale for including or excluding each link:

  • Sixty40 Bodyboarding Magazine - South Africa Bodyboarding Magazine
    • Included — Traffic rank: 221,390. But it seems the last issue was December 2007, so maybe it should be removed.
  • 662 Bodyboarding - 662 Bodyboarding Krew, Bodyboarding Media and News
    • Not included — A link to a web page "that primarily exist[s] to sell products or services", i.e. a link to avoid. Traffic rank: 349,931. But it does appear the site has a stablemate that provides up-to-date news, at 662vm.com, so perhaps that should be included.
  • NYBB - New York Bodyboarding East Coast USA
    • Included. — Seems to be relatively recently updated with news content. Traffic rank: 489,842
  • ECBB - East Coast Bodyboarding Media
    • Not included — site is giving a 403 Forbidden error. Traffic rank: 569,408
  • IBA Tour - the governing body of world bodyboarding
    • Included. — Supposedly the world governing body of the sport. Traffic rank: 610,088
  • Riptide Bodyboarding Magazine - Australian Bodyboarding Magazine
    • Included — seems to be a reputable publication with a large number of issues and active forum and news feed. Traffic rank: 958,912
  • 360 Magazine - UK Bodyboarding Magazine
    • Included. — Has many issues and seems to still be getting published. Traffic rank: 1,019,602
  • Movement Bodyboarding Magazine - Australian Bodyboarding Magazine
    • Included — Relatively high traffic rank and recently updated. Traffic rank: 1,258,706
  • Tubasos.com Puerto Rico Surfing and Bodyboarding website
    • Not included — Not in English, and not sufficiently important or relevant to warrant linking to non-English content. Traffic rank: 1,427,853
  • SurferToday.com - Bodyboarding news provider
    • Not included — Looked to me to be not specifically about bodyboarding, so I excluded it. But I see it has a bodyboarding news section, and it is frequently updated, so perhaps that should be included. Traffic rank: 2,820,680
  • USBA - United States Bodyboarding Association Official Site
    • Included. — Seems to be a national sporting association; worthy of inclusion. Traffic rank: 2,854,974
  • Bodyboarder Magazine - American Bodyboarding Magazine
    • Included — Seems to be a reputable publication with many issues. Traffic rank: 3,423,212
  • Waldron Bros Production - Australian Bodyboarding DVD Company
    • Not included — Seems to be a commercial site selling DVDs, i.e. a site that primarily exists "to sell products or services" per WP:LINKSTOAVOID. Traffic rank: 4,152,597
  • Kernow Bodyboarding The UK bodyboarding website.
    • Included. — Borderline site in terms of news update frequency, and forum activity. Traffic rank: 4,230,966
  • Bodyboarding Directory - Bodyboarding Directory with links to the best BB sites
    • Not included — Seems to be a self-published blog, and not a web directory as the link description suggests. Traffic rank: 4,295,908
  • Association of Women Bodyboarders The AWB.
    • Included. — Site seems to be closed at the moment but promises a relaunch soon, and the subject matter is unique enough to warrant inclusion. Traffic rank: 4,357,680
  • A-framemag - Online Bodyboarding Magazine
    • Not included — No new issue since March 2008. Traffic rank: 5,605,836
  • Bodyboarding WA - Large Western Australian based online bodyboarding community and information/news source, most active forums in the industry
    • Not included — Doesn't seem to be updated frequently enough to be useful (front page talks about 2007 stuff). Traffic rank: 8,887,101
  • SABA - South African Bodyboarding Association
    • Included. — National sport association, seems to be relatively recently updated. Traffic rank: 13,274,353
  • British Bodyboard Club The newly launched homepage for Bodyboarding in the UK
    • Included. — Low traffic rank, but seems to be some sort of national body. Traffic rank: 14,136,608
  • Crysis Bodyboard Magazine - American Bodyboarding Magazine
    • Not included — traffic rank: 19,189,109. But it seems that the site now forwards to bodyboardmag.com, which is recently updated and has several issues (but no traffic rank data, so it's probably new)
  • BBA - Governing Body of bodyboarding in Australiasia
    • Not included — Site hasn't been updated in almost a year. Traffic rank: 28,115,760
  • Transparent Bodyboarding - West Australian website supporting bodyboarding media , bodyboarding community links
    • Not included — Traffic rank: not even enough to get listed
  • Bodyboarder Hawaii Myspace - Bodyboarder Hawaii Myspace
    • Not included — it is a Mysapce page, which is a link to be avoided since it is a social networking site. Traffic rank unavailable for individual MySpace pages.
  • BOOM! Bodyboarding Podcast - Waldron Bros Production
    • Not included — A link to avoid because it requires the user to install iTunes, i.e. a page that is "inaccessible to a substantial number of users" and requires "registration to view the relevant content".

Please indicate to me which of my assessments above you disagree with, and why. - Mark 11:15, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Mark, if you are clearly not involved with the sport and its media or links then as a community member, we would ask that you step away from the editing of this page as you are doing more harm than good to the community base on this page by single-handily highjacking its page for your personal judgment based on loose rules by Wikipedia's standard. The links you have chosen to keep are not consistant in your judgment and a third party mediator will be requested upon further edits declared by you. Regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.215.161.150 (talk) 08:20, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't really looking for admonishment, I was looking for your feedback on the above links. Requesting a third-party mediator isn't going to do you much good if you can't say specifically what it is about my edit which angers you. - Mark 08:27, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have started a Request for Comment on this article in the section below, in the hope that some constructive discussion about the merits of these links can proceed. - Mark 08:39, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

External link inclusion RfC

This is an RfC about which sites should be included in the external links section of the article Bodyboarding.

Remove them all per WP:EL, WP:SPAM, and WP:NOTLINK. Really. The article needs references. Instead it's host to examplefarms and a linkfarm. --Ronz (talk) 18:28, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

removed decade name apostrophes per Basic_copyediting

removed decade name apostrophes per Basic_copyediting--RichardMills65 (talk) 04:06, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lame

What is a "body board"? What does it do? How is it used? How is it different from a surfboard or a boogie board? At a minimum, the technical specifications (I assume if there are competitions, they exist?) and (if different) the common retail specifications ought to be presented.173.189.73.122 (talk) 18:03, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Boogie board" is a trademark, the generic item is a "bodyboard". knoodelhed (talk) 05:56, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Stand up

What does this mean: [Stand up] has however fallen to number 2 in Southern New Zealand. Was it ever number 1 in Southern NZ? Or elsewhere? What is #1? --217.149.175.15 (talk) 18:31, 16 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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