Talk:Balinese cat

Merged comment

article needs more citations and references. Kpstewart (talk) 05:49, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Where does it need more citations and references? Rokickis (talk) 04:57, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

I actually agree after re-reading the page a couple more times. The history section needs the most citations/references. Most of the information is true, it just needs to be backed up by a citation. Rokickis (talk) 04:33, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Picture

I recently removed the following picture and caption from the article:

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  A Lilac Point Balinese queen. Note the beautiful blue/gray coloration.

As lovely as this cat appears to be, there is a better image already in the article as well as a link to Commons. The image I removed could probably be added to the other Balinese at Commons. The problem I see is threefold:

1. The caption is not neutral. "Beautiful" is an interpretation, and I'm not sure why I am being told to note the coloration. We need to stick to the facts and what we are illustrating with images. No doubt readers can conclude "beautiful" on their own.
2. More importantly, the date on the picture and the orange reflection (from the camera flash?) distract from the picture quality, which makes it less than ideal for an encyclopedia. A view of the whole body would be more illuminating, as with the other Balinese images on Commons.
3. Finally, I'm not sure what the picture adds to the article. There's already one picture and a link to more; what does this one do differently? -Phoenixrod (talk) 03:54, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

The picture has been returned to the page for which it was intended.

1. Most people will comment on the attractiveness of what they see and the comments usually given to the Lilac Balinese (not unlike comments given to the Russian Blue) are admiring of the color.
2. Not every one is a professional photographer and many supporting images in Wikipedia are not taken in professional settings. Unless and until such standards are applied across the board at Wikipedia, clear images which have a valid application for the subject matter should not be discriminated against.
3. The image submitted is the only one actually on the article page to show what Lilac point coloration really is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cjennmom (talk • contribs) 20:04, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for finally talking about the issue instead of trying to force your picture into the article.

I'm sorry, but I don't believe it's a good photo for an encyclopedia. Perhaps, if it is your cat, you are a little biased on the issue? The cat does look lovely, but it's not as good a photo as the one already in the article or as good a picture as the others on Commons. The caption is not appropriate for a neutral encyclopedia. And we don't particularly need more than one photo in such a short article. You speak of "The page for which it was intended" ... by you? I don't understand how you can speak of an article's "intention"; please see WP:OWN. I don't frankly see how the photo we are debating adds to an understanding of lilac point coloration. Indeed, the article is about Balinese in general, not lilac points.

In the meantime, please don't start an edit war over the issue. I see from your contributions that are pretty new to Wikipedia, so I believe that some of the friction comes from not being familiar with the policies; that can be overcome. If you insist on trying to get the photo into the article, let's ask at the Cats WikiProject for input. Okay? But let's leave the article alone unless a concensus develops to include the picture. -Phoenixrod (talk) 21:12, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I want a different picture of the cat because, while it is a nice picture, it is difficult to see the cat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.168.172.180 (talk) 19:40, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Temperament

I own a 2-year old Balinese, whom I raised from a kitten myself... She is definitely very loving toward *me*, however she does not like other human companionship at all, and will run and hide the whole day if a single person comes over. She also meows constantly. While I find this cute, and try to draw her attention toward me when she gets obsessed... some of my neighbors have had complaints! I find that mine is a very obsessive little creature, also I guess this behavior may be due to the fact that she's the runt... or at least hasn't started to look like her lankier cousins, though she's no less agile (and she is most certainly 100% pure Balinese). Just pointing out this variation in behavior, maybe suggesting a little less 'certain' language in the temperament section. 173.23.250.185 (talk) 17:48, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Cats raised without significant feline companionship in their formative months/years will often display vastly different behavioral traits than those that did spend a lot of time with other kittens/cats. This is one of the reasons vets/experts typically advise leaving a kitten with its relatives for at least 3 months (See Kitten).

That said, this whole article needs work to improve its tone, and to add citations to reliable sources.

Hope that helps. -- Quiddity (talk) 20:04, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

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Pop Culture

Excuse me? What does this have to do with a breed of cat? So the cat appeared in a bad, CGI American movie? I think this beyond trivial and the person who undid this content is seriously overreacting. If anything this reference to a Balinese cat should be on the page for the movie and nowhere else.TurtleMelody (talk) 05:57, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Thought it might be wise to introduce myself...

Hello -- I was poking about the page history prior to attempting a rewrite, and noticed that there's been quite a bit of dispute about the proper tone and content of the article recently. I've been making something of a (solo) project to clean up the cat breed articles recently, introducing an extensive copyedit, some standardised formatting, and hopefully a more neutral, objectively encyclopedic tone overall (I love cats unabashedly but do not breed, show or for that matter own any purebreds).

Examples: Abyssinian cat, Burmese cat, Tonkinese cat, Birman.

I'm really hopeful that any changes I do make will be acceptable to the active editors here, and of course will be open to any suggestions. Thanking you all greatly in advance, Shoebox2 talk 22:49, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

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New Editor~

My goal is to add more citations to this page, and make it great as Maine Coon. If you see anything that you disagree with, please tell me! I don't mind rephrasing it, or correcting it! Otherwise you can correct it too! I'm having some troubles figuring out how to add more to health problems for the Balinese, since it's such a new breed. Please if you got the time, help me since I'm still new at this! I will try to do my best to make this a good page! Anyway, have fun editing! ~ [User: Rokickis]