Talk:Assam tea

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Assam green?

I own a package of Assam green tea. But this article states that it's black tea. The fact that green Assam tea exists should be added to this article. Can an expert check on this? Badagnani 20:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Done. You should try the Assam whites too! Chaipau 10:48, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is one of those classic cases where a product becomes a brand - teas from Assam may be black, green, white or whatever, but "Assam tea" in English always refers to the black tea from Assam. In the same way there are non-fizzy wines (and other drinks) made in Champagne - but in common English usage "Champagne" always refers to the sparkling wine from that region. It gets a bit awkward on Wikipedia as it's not always clear whether the article is talking about the specific product, or a more general article on tea growing in Assam.FlagSteward 16:05, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • It may deserve a mention to state that the term Assam can refer to a green or white tea (like currently in the lead), but stating in this article that Assam tea is black, white, or green tea just raises confusion (like in the infobox, so best to remove that) considering that the article scope is clearly about the black tea variety. If Assam green tea is notable, than wouldn't it merit an article of its own? --Cold Season (talk) 22:56, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Consider that green, white, black and oolong teas are all actually made from the same plant, just harvested at different times during the ripening stage and processed in different ways. So it's not really that Assam black tea is what is primarily grown, it's that Assam tea is mostly harvested and processed in such a way that black tea is produced. 24.55.210.128 (talk) 02:46, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tea, whether green or black, is derived from the same species of plant, Camella Sinensis. Where Assam tea differs is in its production mechanism. Assam tea or Assam CTC is processed through a full fermentation process which gives it a higher quantity of theaflavins and thearubigins. The content of catechins, however, is slightly lower than that of green tea. These compounds work as antioxidants in the body, thereby providing several health benefits as identified through systematic scientific studies. The theaflavins in the Assam tea are also responsible for the bright red colour of the tea. The features and benefits of this tea come not only from the production process but also from the geographical attributes of the region that the tea is produced. Almost all major national brands have Assam tea or Assam CTC in their product mix. However, homegrown brands from Assam like Brew Cafe are also making their mark on the segment. The new stage in evolution in the industry has been the focus on premium quality and organic & sustainable farming. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Techpcbuzz (talkcontribs) 09:58, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bangladesh

What about tea from Bangladesh? I assume it is the same as Assam tea. Please clarify. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.131.41.63 (talk) 12:50, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No it is not Assam tea. It is possibly made from the same plant (Assam type), but so is Kenyan tea. Chaipau (talk) 04:28, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Safekeeping

So how should Assam tea be kept? I have loose crushed, torn and curled Assam tealeaves here. This is black tea. My Earl Grey and my Russian Caravan I have put into bags to keep them in the dark, since these are not oxidised like green teas, and I guess this should be kept similarly. Will it react adversely to sunlight? Will it react adversely to the acidity or moisture of the surrounding atmosphere? Wilsonsamm (talk) 23:56, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Would also like to see recommended brewing temperature and caffeine content. Unless that belongs elsewhere? 09:18, 04-NOV-2014 (PST) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.57.113.237 (talk)

Significant changes to article

See [1]. Badagnani (talk) 07:17, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Change of species here. Badagnani (talk) 07:24, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Assam plant, also called the Assam Jat, has been classified as it is mentioned in the reference from Toklai that I have inserted. It is a tree, whereas the Chinese plant is a shrub.
Historically, the British introduced the Chinese plant in Assam at the beginning of the commercialization of tea in Assam, but they did not survive.
Chaipau (talk) 19:25, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This does not answer the question of whether it is a separate species. Badagnani (talk) 22:39, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Check text and reference. Chaipau (talk) 19:38, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This does not answer the question of whether it is a separate species. Badagnani (talk) 20:06, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It does. The Assam type plant belongs to the species Camellia sinensis. The extension var. assamica indicates it forms a conspecific taxa wrt the China type. This is clearly mentioned in the taxonomic database given in the reference. Chaipau (talk) 03:08, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I asked because just a few days ago someone changed it to another species. Badagnani (talk) 03:14, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, the C. sinensis article barely touches on var. assamica. Kortoso (talk) 17:59, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Who copied who?

http://www.teaviews.com/category/assam-tea/

this articles intr seems to be a word for word copy either by wikipedia or by Tea Review. Is there a way to tell who is plagiarizing the other? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.9.202.70 (talk) 04:08, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can follow the evolution of the text in wikipedia, which first appeared in 2004. Tea review has copied the text from Wikipedia. Chaipau (talk) 12:59, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

oxomiya sah

There is nothing called oxomiya sah. Chaipau (talk) 16:35, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Why is this page protected?? There are obvious grammar problems.

I appreciate all who have contributed to this page, but there are a couple grammar issues here and there. Lastly, the use of both single and double quotation marks around certain words results in a rather sarcastic and snooty layer of political commentary. This is an encyclopedia, not a New Yorker article, and most definitely not a college essay about colonialism and hegemony. Thanks.

why copy paste description of chinese tea - if this article is about specifically about the assam version?

the inclusion of this: "Aging some teas are subjected to aging and fermentation to make them more palatable. Some types of Chinese Pu-erh, for example, are fermented and aged for years, much like wine. " is a warning sign, that the article or parts of it are not relyable at all since it was noit written with the subject in mind. i suppose the reader wants to find out what is specific of the assam tea be it botanical variety, geographical location, distinctive method of processing, or typical features associated with the end product. certainly i have not looked up the article to read about "chinese pu-erh tea". 89.134.199.32 (talk) 20:17, 1 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Yes, the entire section about tea processing is general for green, oolong, black, and pu-erh tea instead of describing the specifics of Assam. Paulo Ribeiro (talk) 08:04, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Camellia assamica or Tea in Assam?

It's confusing to use this page. Many questions arise which are unanswered by it. - Where is the variety assamica grown? This article only addresses the tea industry in Assam and gives the impression that the variety can only be grown in Assam.

Kortoso (talk) 00:39, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Possible vandalism?

Back in September 2022, it appears that someone changed the article name to JEN (from Assam) and also removed certain text within the article, inserting the same. Should these changes be reverted?

I’m a big fan of Wikipedia and rarely offer updates and edits myself… but I was sad to see what appeared to be obvious vandalism to what in general is an excellent article. 2600:1007:B076:25A9:4873:9578:65AC:2C3C (talk) 16:16, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Assamese

tea frome assam 117.233.226.222 (talk) 13:24, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]