Talk:Aranjuez

Nicaragua

I removed a stray passage about Nicaragua:

Aranjuez was a Mountain Resort in Matagalpa, Nicaragua, founded by the British lady Allyson Potter, and her American husband Blair De Savigny (from San Francisco, Calif), in 1932. They were immigrants who have settled in this area to do bussines with coffee. She was the daughter of Alexander Potter, an excentric but visionary man who did a lot of modern improvements in in Matagalpa. (He built roads, opened a well suited department store, besides of being a exaple of the Elegant Brittish Gentleman. The Resort was closed in 1940 when II Wolrd War started and the moved back to England

could be moved to Aranjuez, Nicaragua if needed. --mervyn 12:36, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

sound clip

If someone could post a sound clip of how to say it that would be useful...--Veggieburgerfish (talk) 22:56, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can hear how to pronounce it here: http://www.forvo.com/word/aranjuez/

--Assdl (talk) 07:23, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bourbon?

why is the section on history/famous events titled "bourbon"? is there some spanish meaning i am unaware of? 66.30.47.138 (talk) 01:30, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Enlightenment in Spain is connected to the Bourbon dinasty. As a Royal Site, the influence of the monarchs in the development of the city is far greater than average. In any case I don't think the structure of the article is compelling at all.--Asqueladd (talk) 02:26, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

can we maybe change that title to "Aranjuez during the Bourbon Dynasty"? as it stands now, i thought it was about to discuss some FAMOUS WHISKEY they produce! 66.30.47.138 (talk) 13:11, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't care much to be honest. In any case, whatever subsection title prevails, it should be understood as a temporary solution, before the content is delistified and woven within the history section.--Asqueladd (talk) 15:44, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Name

is there NO chance the name is derived from the fruit orange?

i realize it's naranja in modern spanish (castillian), but most languages dropped the initial n- along the way -- latin "aurantius", italian "arancia", even occitan "aurengia". it's a short hop to aranjuez from any of those. 66.30.47.138 (talk) 13:44, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Frankly, I think there is no chance at all. It is well inland from the main orange-growing areas and also it is on the plateau and temperatures are markedly lower than on the Mediterranean coast. Have you any evidence that oranges were ever grown in any quantity in this area? I suspect the city was named long before the inhabitants ever saw an orange. LynwoodF (talk) 14:18, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

no, i'm just noting the obvious resemblance of the words...especially if the fruit was ever spelled "aranja" in some dialect. 66.30.47.138 (talk) 02:37, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Without sources such speculation can't be added to the article. In any case Aranjuez is not the original spelling. PS: Aranjuez is reputed for its strawberries and asparagus.--Asqueladd (talk) 02:49, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

about 900 years late, but the 1975 deep purple cover of the rodrigo piece retitled it "The Orange Juice Song"...and a 1996 british film reffed the original as "Concierto d'Orangejuice".

great minds think alike! :p 66.30.47.138 (talk) 04:03, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good examples of what is known as "popular etymology". In English we have quite a lot of it. Examples often given are sparrow grass and Welsh rarebit. LynwoodF (talk) 09:43, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

real horrorshow! :p 66.30.47.138 (talk) 11:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

i found out late in life that the infamous musical "Oh! Calcutta!" was not about the British Raj in India, but rather a cutesy spelling of "O Quel Cul T'As!" (great ass ya got there)....

always the last to know! :( 66.30.47.138 (talk) 11:26, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am reminded by all this that some years ago (possibly decades - I am pretty ancient these days) I wondered whether the Spanish forename Arantxa might be the Catalan word for orange, given that it is so similar to the Italian word. However, when I checked, I found that the Catalans had gone their own way and said taronja. Apparently, Arantxa is of Basque origin and means thornbush. So it could be cognate with Aranjuez! LynwoodF (talk) 12:05, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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