Talk:Amber McLaughlin
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Appropriate gender identity to use in article
Isn't it kind of revolting to call this rapist and murderer a woman when he's a man? 2A0B:6204:34C8:AF00:F8E7:5FAD:6598:AFFA (talk) 09:45, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- Read MOS:GENDERID. XenonNSMB (talk, contribs) 16:00, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- User:XenonNSMB, MOS:GENDERID doesn't actually apply here, since MOS:GENDERID quite explicitly restricts its scope to living people, which McLaughlin obviously isn't – and a 2021 RFC to extend its scope to include the non-living failed to reach a consensus. That said, I think there is a broader point here, about whether MOS:GENDERID should actually apply to people whose sole notability is due to their commission of heinous crimes (and/or the ensuing investigation/trial/conviction/appeals/punishment), so I've opened a discussion on that topic. SomethingForDeletion (talk) 23:16, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
- Actually, while restrictions against including deadnames are specific to living people, other provisions - like which pronouns to use and which gender identity to reflect in articles - are not. So it is still true that MOS:GENDERID does mandate female pronouns in this article, even though it doesn't prevent the mention of the subject's former name. Newimpartial (talk) 15:56, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- lmao, wikipedia is a joke Casint (talk) 22:18, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- User:XenonNSMB, MOS:GENDERID doesn't actually apply here, since MOS:GENDERID quite explicitly restricts its scope to living people, which McLaughlin obviously isn't – and a 2021 RFC to extend its scope to include the non-living failed to reach a consensus. That said, I think there is a broader point here, about whether MOS:GENDERID should actually apply to people whose sole notability is due to their commission of heinous crimes (and/or the ensuing investigation/trial/conviction/appeals/punishment), so I've opened a discussion on that topic. SomethingForDeletion (talk) 23:16, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
Suggested addition to "See also"
There are a number of similarities between Amber McLaughlin and Isla Bryson, as both are trans women who were convicted of sexual crimes (and in McLaughlin's case also murder) committed before they transitioned. I think something like this should be added to the "See also" section:
* Isla Bryson, a Scottish trans woman who was convicted of two rapes committed before her transition
Would anyone object to this addition? If no, then I would appreciate if someone added this, because I can't due to the article being protected. - 188.176.174.30 (talk) 23:51, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
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