Draft talk:Hassan Nisar Haripur

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Request for review of Draft:Hassan Nisar Haripur

his is a request for review of the draft article Draft:Hassan Nisar, a Pakistani entrepreneur, YouTuber, and philanthropist.

The draft has been created with links to reputable sources that demonstrate notable achievements and awards. The content has been written with a neutral and verifiable tone.

Disclosure: The creator of this draft has a connection to the subject, having worked with them on their initiatives.

Please review the draft to ensure it meets Wikipedia's guidelines and standards. Thank you for your time and expertise. Uohabacasu (talk) 12:29, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source evaluation

This draft has been rejected but another source has been added, so I'll do a source evaluation here for the sources that are in the current version of the draft.

The sources are in four batches. The first one has citations that have been added to the draft in the correct manner to verify various bits of information.

Source assessment table:
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
https://www.dawn.com/news/1820867 No Press release No Promotional blurb about receiving the PSL award ✘ No
https://pakobserver.net/hassan-nisar-founder-of-metrix-pakistan-honoured-with-hamaray-heroes-award-by-psl/ No The same press release as the previous source Yes No ✘ No
https://www.nation.com.pk/12-Jun-2024/metrix-pakistan-mansehra-college-sign-mou-for-cooperation No Press release about a partnership between his company and a university Yes No Mentions his name in passing ✘ No
https://www.radio.gov.pk/19-05-2024/three-day-tech-summit-highlighting-diverse-skills-concludes-in-islamabad No Press release about a technology conference / competition Yes No Mentions his name in passing ✘ No
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2467500/tech-summit-encourages-innovation No A slightly longer version of the same press release as the previous source Yes No Mentions his name in passing ✘ No
https://www.nation.com.pk/07-May-2024/fast-university-metrix-pakistan-organise-annual-nutec-event No Churnalism based on the same press release as the previous two sources Yes No Mentions his name in passing ✘ No
https://www.suchtv.pk/technology/item/117188-kpk-s-biggest-tech-summit-brings-web3-blockchain-to-limelight.html No Another press release for another tech conference / competition ? No Mentions his name in passing ✘ No
https://www.dawn.com/news/1653693 ~ Written by a journalist but largely based on an interview Yes No Not about Nisar ✘ No
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2319783/youtuber-discovers-eight-waterfalls-in-haripur Yes Yes No Mentions his name in passing ✘ No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH-2YhCwFQU ~ Interview with the person, entirely primary Yes Although this is a YouTube video (usually not reliable), this seems to be published by an official channel ? Unlikely – it's a 5-minute segment with Nisar speaking, but it is apparently focused specifically on the PSL award. ? Unknown
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Then there's a list of nine external links with no explanation of how they relate to the info in the draft.

Source assessment table:
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
https://www.nation.com.pk/14-Jun-2024/workshop-on-women-empowerment-held-in-haripur No Press release, not about Nisar Yes No Mentions his name in passing ✘ No
https://www.radio.gov.pk/01-06-2024/3-day-gitex-africa-2024-event-concludes-in-marrakesh-morocco No Very brief press release Yes No Mentions him in passing (without mentioning his name) ✘ No
https://www.urdupoint.com/daily/livenews/2024-03-20/news-3956883.html No Press release about a conference arranged by his company No Mentions his name in passing ✘ No
https://urdu.app.com.pk/urdu/%DA%A9%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%B3%DB%8C%D9%B9%D8%B3-%DB%8C%D9%88%D9%86%DB%8C%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%B3%D9%B9%DB%8C-%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85-%D8%A7%D9%93%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%AF-%DA%A9%DB%92-%D8%B2%DB%8C%D8%B1-%D8%A7/ No Another copy of the press release used as ref 4 and 5 in the previous table Yes ✘ No
https://urdu.app.com.pk/urdu/%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%DA%A9%D8%B4-%D9%85%DB%8C%DA%BA-%D9%85%D9%86%D8%B9%D9%82%D8%AF-%DB%81%D9%88%D9%86%DB%92-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%B9%DA%A9%D8%B3-%D8%A7%D9%81%D8%B1%DB%8C%D9%82%DB%81/ No Press release about an event that Nisar's company participated in Yes No Mentions his name in passing ✘ No
https://www.urdupoint.com/daily/livenews/2024-06-13/news-4052351.html No Same as source 1 in this table (this one is in Urdu but it's still the same PR) Yes No ✘ No
https://humenglish.com/uncategorized/metrix-pakistan/ No Press release / churnalism, same as source 3 in this table ? No ✘ No
https://humenglish.com/press-release/metrix-youth-summit-held-in-haripur/ No Yet another press release about a conference organised by his company. ? No Mentions his name in passing ✘ No
https://humenglish.com/technology/uoh-hosts-national-agri-tech-expo/ No Yet another press release about event co-organised by his company. ? Mentions his name in passing ✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

The third batch is a refdump placed after the last of the external links above, for some reason. Again no info on how they relate to the draft.

Source assessment table:
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
https://thefrontierpost.com/hassan-honored-with-hamaray-heroes-award-by-pakistan-super-league/ No Copy of the same press release as in sources 1 and 2 in the first batch above Yes No ✘ No
https://metrix.pk/hassan-nisar-founder-and-ceo-of-metrix-pakistan-honored-with-hamaray-heroes-award-by-psl/ No Yet another PR about the same topic as the previous – this one published on the company web site No ✘ No
https://metrix.pk/ No His company's website No None at all, it's just the company site ✘ No
https://metrix.pk/metrix-tech-summit-2022-summary/ No Company website, report on an event they arranged No None at all ✘ No
https://metrix.pk/metrix-tech-fest-2023-press-release/ No Press release published on the company website. Probably the same PR as some of the previous ones, but at this point I am losing the will to live and won't go through them again No None at all ✘ No
https://metrix.pk/metrix-pakistan-medical-camp-chamhad-abbottabad-summary/ No Yet another PR on company website No None at all ✘ No
https://www.nation.com.pk/15-Jun-2024/hu-metrix-pakistan-organise-career-development-workshop No Press release about an event organised by the company No None at all ✘ No
https://www.urdupoint.com/en/pakistan/hu-metrix-pakistan-organizes-day-long-career-1835566.html No LITERALLY THE SAME TEXT AS THE PREVIOUS SOURCE No ✘ No
https://www.radio.gov.pk/11-07-2023/technology-festival-and-expo-begins-in-abbottabad-on-4th-august No PR for upcoming event co-organised by company. No None at all ✘ No
https://www.app.com.pk/domestic/hu-matrix-pakistan-organizes-day-long-career-development-workshop/ No And we're back to the exact identical press release as in 8 and 9 above No ✘ No
https://hu.edu.pk/news/412 No Press release published on university website, about upcoming event arranged by company Yes No Doesn't even mention him ✘ No
https://dailytimes.com.pk/1190110/metrix-pakistan-empowers-youth-with-second-edition-of-youth-summit-in-haripur/ No This press release is the same one as the 8th link in batch 2 Yes No ✘ No
https://dailytimes.com.pk/1121116/pta-and-metrix-pakistan-arrange-cyberspace-conference-in-abbottabad/ No Press release about the event also mentioned in sources 5 and 9 above. No ✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

And the final batch is again a linkdump placed after the previous one on the page.

Source assessment table:
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/600814933/kpk-s-biggest-tech-summit-brings-web3-blockchain-to-limelight No PR about conference, identical to source 7 in the first batch. This is the source that was added after the draft was rejected – it was already in the article, at least twice. No brief mention. ✘ No
https://www.urdupoint.com/daily/livenews/2024-03-20/news-3956883.html No This is the exact same link (not just the same PR published in a different place) as link 3 in batch 2 No ✘ No
https://www.urdupoint.com/en/pakistan/technical-educational-institutions-collab-1834264.html No Same PR (though published in a different place) as ref 3 in the first batch No ✘ No
https://www.urdupoint.com/en/education/cui-tech-summit-2024-concludes-after-comprehe-1826762.html No Same press release as refs 4 and 5 in batch 1 No ✘ No
https://www.urdupoint.com/en/pakistan/3-day-tech-summit-2022-concludes-in-hazara-un-1586628.html No And this is the same PR as in ref 7 in the first batch, and two or three others No ✘ No
https://dailyausaf.com/en/education/peshawar-hosts-kpks-biggest-technical-event/ No Press release, identical in every detail to ref 6 in the first batch No ✘ No
https://abnnews.pk/pakistan/122461/ No Yet another copy of the PR in the previous source No ✘ No
https://hamariweb.com/enews/%DA%A9%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%B3%DB%8C%D9%B9%D8%B3-%DB%8C%D9%88%D9%86%DB%8C%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%B3%D9%B9%DB%8C-%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85-%D8%A7%D9%93%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%AF-%DA%A9%DB%92-%D8%B2%DB%8C%D8%B1-%D8%A7%DB%81%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%85-%D8%A7%D9%88%D8%B1-%D9%85%DB%8C%D9%B9%D8%B1%DA%A9%D8%B3-%D9%BE%D8%A7%DA%A9%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%A7%D9%86-%DA%A9%DB%92-%D8%A7%D8%B4%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%DA%A9-%D8%B3%DB%92-%D9%85%D9%86%D8%B9%D9%82%D8%AF%DB%81-%D8%AA%DB%8C%D9%86-%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B2%DB%81-%D9%B9%DB%8C%DA%A9-%D8%B3%D9%85%D9%B9-%D8%A7%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%AA%D8%A7%D9%85-%D9%BE%D8%B0%DB%8C%D8%B1_nid3677523.aspx No This press release is the same one as source 4 in this batch (this may be the original PR for that event and other versions are churnalism – I really don't know) No ✘ No
https://enews.hamariweb.com/telecom/pta-and-metrix-pakistan-co-host-successful-safe-secure-responsible-use-of-cyberspace-conference-in-abbottabad/ No Churnalism based on the same press release as (e.g.) the last ref in batch 3 No ✘ No
https://enews.hamariweb.com/science-and-technology-news/kpks-biggest-tech-summit-brings-web3-blockchain-to-limelight/ No Press release with the EXACT same text as the first reference in this batch. No ✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

I don't quite know what to say to anyone who believes that these sources do, in any shape or form whatsoever, meet WP:CORPDEPTH. --bonadea contributions talk 13:44, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

...nor WP:BLP, which is the relevant one here. (Kind of drives my point home, that I didn't remember this was supposed to be about a person – so few of the sources do more than mention him by name!) --bonadea contributions talk 14:01, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Bonadea, You did a pretty good job. Majority of sources are WP:GUNREL. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 16:14, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bonadea: Thanks for doing the legwork on this. With so many references, including in some major publications, but with the draft in such a poor state, it was difficult to see the wood from the trees. I'd started trying to group them, but gave up when they piled yet more references on. Good job. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 19:03, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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