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For Wales, See England was the full text of the 1888 Encyclopædia Britannica entry on Wales. The phrase has since been widely referenced by Welsh commentators

England and Wales


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Liberal Welsh author and politician J. Hugh Edwards wrote of the phrase in 1896 that "there is not a subject on which the great bulk of the English people is so astoundingly misinformed as that which has reference to Wales," accusing the editors of the Enclyopedia Britannica of having "found themselves absolutely devoid of a single idea in reference to the history of the country and of its people."[4]

Daran Hill of the Institute of Welsh Affairs has called the phrase "arguably one of the most inflammatory sentences ever committed to print," adding that "in Welsh politics generally, comparisons with Scotland are acceptable, with England they are not."[5] Jac Larner of Cardiff University has said that there has been a recent "habit of comparing Wales to Scotland, as the ‘other’ devolved Celtic fringe," but that the comparison is not more accurate than comparing Welsh politics to English politics.[6]

In popular culture

References

  1. ^ England, Joe (4 July 2024). "For Britain See Wales: Five principles for a future Wales". Nation.Cymru. Retrieved 4 July 2024.
  2. ^ Williams, John (2 January 2022). "Why a 'for Wales see England' public inquiry into Covid-19 isn't good enough". Nation.Cymru. Retrieved 4 July 2024.
  3. ^ Jones, Helen Mary (25 September 2020). "For Wales, See England? The UK Media and Devolution". Institute of Welsh Affairs. Retrieved 4 July 2024.
  4. ^ Bohata, Kirsti (20 December 2006). "'for Wales, see England?' suffrage and the new woman in Wales". Women's History Review. Retrieved 4 July 2024.
  5. ^ Hill, Daran (15 May 2015). "For Wales, see England". Institute of Welsh Affairs. Retrieved 4 July 2024.
  6. ^ Larner, Jac (30 April 2015). "For Wales, do not see England (or Scotland)". LSE British Politics and Policy. Retrieved 4 July 2024.