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Section size for Attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election (80 sections)
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(Top)	34,510	34,510
Background	132	18,404
Trump's 2012 accusations of electoral fraud	1,036	1,036
Uncertainty over Trump accepting an electoral loss in 2016	2,619	2,619
Uncertainty over Trump accepting an electoral loss in 2020	14,617	14,617
Refusal to accept 2020 electoral loss	19,678	63,485
Stop the Steal	31,536	31,536
Conspiracy theories	12,271	12,271
November 2020	5,196	85,083
"Fake" electors	6,140	6,140
Lame duck firings and hirings	15,628	15,628
Lawsuits	5,943	5,943
Michigan officials pressured to not certify	8,649	8,649
Attempt to seize voting machines in Michigan	1,672	1,672
Georgia Secretary of State pressured to disqualify ballots	3,976	3,976
Wisconsin recount-obstruction	3,237	3,237
Partisan hearings with Republican legislatures	2,732	2,732
Conspiracy allegations	23,135	23,135
Threats of violence by Trump supporters	8,775	8,775
December 2020	6,321	72,584
Trump's attempt to pressure state officials	10,138	10,138
Supreme Court petitions	7,489	7,489
Consideration of special counsel and martial law	14,470	14,470
Planning for Congress to overturn the election on January 6	2,422	2,422
Pressure on Pence	1,224	14,919
"Pence Card" conspiracy	9,251	9,251
December timeline	4,444	4,444
Pressure on Justice Department	6,544	6,544
Pressure on Defense Department	3,830	3,830
Plan to seize voting machines	3,618	3,618
Ellis memos	1,717	1,717
Plan to obtain National Security Agency data	1,116	1,116
January 2021	7,527	73,967
Gohmert v. Pence	4,965	4,965
Calls with state officials	15,731	15,731
Justice Department pressured and efforts made to replace acting attorney general	7,166	7,166
Preparations by chief of staff	4,143	4,143
More pressure on Pence	8,139	8,139
January 6 joint session	90	10,827
Senate efforts	8,644	8,644
House votes	1,063	1,063
Report by Rep. Zoe Lofgren	1,030	1,030
Capitol attack	11,255	11,255
Trump operatives breach Coffee County, Georgia election system	1,930	1,930
Lindell memo	2,284	2,284
Later developments	26	64,182
Taxpayer costs	741	741
Security concerns over March 4, 2021	1,576	1,576
Election audits	2,647	34,162
Arizona	8,248	8,248
Georgia	4,104	4,104
Idaho	2,080	2,080
Pennsylvania	6,329	6,329
Texas	3,140	3,140
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Mike Lindell reinstatement prediction	1,526	1,526
Senate Judiciary Committee report	750	750
Election law reform efforts	1,699	1,699
Post-election voter restriction efforts by Republicans	182	182
Impact on secretaries of state	981	981
House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack	4,241	4,241
2021 German federal election	1,623	1,623
Justice Department investigations	1,460	1,460
Civil lawsuits	551	551
Continuing subversion efforts and 2024 predictions	11,449	11,449
Post-election allegations of statistical improbabilities	3,215	3,215
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Republican critiques of the "big lie"	853	21,495
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See also	129	129
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The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future:

Eggers, Andrew C.; Garro, Haritz; Grimmer, Justin (2021-11-09). "No evidence for systematic voter fraud: A guide to statistical claims about the 2020 election". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America. Retrieved 2021-11-16.
House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack's Presentation Outline

Trump reportedly wanted to join the rioters

I don't think we have sufficiently weighty RSs to add this to the article, but its in the media and I wanted to note them for followup later. Politico had this scoop,^[1] which has spawned (of course) a cascade of other media stories based on the original Politco piece. Apparently a secret service agent, Trumps lead guy, gave closed (not public testimony). The committee hasn't disclosed it. So what we have here is he said..... he heard it from a friend.....that the other person told a bunch of people..... stuff (Politico heard it from a source that the agent testified to the panel.) This is why I don't think the report has enough WEIGHT to be added to the article. But it sure is interesting. Even as the violence was happening, Trump was tryhing to talk his detail into taking him down to the capitol. Instead they took him to the White House. At least, if the report is accurate.

Imagine if Secret Service had really taken Pence to Andrews and Trump got to the capitol.....

Anyway, the other part of this story that we might be able to use if the committee discloses the agent's testimony is commentary from Professor Ruth Ben-Ghiat, who studies fascism and coups, and opined that "“If you’re having a coup and summoned everybody, and aim to be anointed as the head of a new illegitimate government, you have to be there,” I'm sure there's a weightier RS than HuffPost but for now, ^[2]

References

^ Swan, Betsy Woodruff. "Trump privately raised Jan. 6 Capitol appearance with Secret Service agent, select panel hears". POLITICO.
^ "Trump Botched His 'Coup' By Not Marching To Capitol Jan. 6, Says Expert On Autocrats". HuffPost. 12 June 2022.

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Change within the brief synopsis box on the right of the page, From Deaths: 9 to Deaths: 1 (Due to violence) 8 due to existing health conditions either on the day or shortly after)^[1] Bdalecox1999 (talk) 06:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/

@Bdalecox1999: For now I have commented it out as being unsourced and not mentioned anywhere in the article itself. Looking at the factcheck site, it's more nuanced than what you propose, and the infobox isn't intended for wordy explanations, so we need to think of an alternative way to present it. ~Anachronist (talk) 06:53, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Attempts to overturn the 2000 United States presidential election

Why no Wikipedia article on Al Gore's attempted overturning of the 2000 Bush victory? This seems to show a Wikipedia bias in favor of unhappy defeated Democrats. 174.170.145.188 (talk) 19:22, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because he didn't; he conceded. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:25, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Swan, Betsy Woodruff. "Trump privately raised Jan. 6 Capitol appearance with Secret Service agent, select panel hears". POLITICO.

[2] "Trump Botched His 'Coup' By Not Marching To Capitol Jan. 6, Says Expert On Autocrats". HuffPost. 12 June 2022.

[3] ttps://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/

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