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RM, 2023 Covenant School shooting → Covenant School shooting, No consensus, 28 March 2023, Requested move 28 March 2023
RM, 2023 Covenant School shooting → Nashville school shooting, Moved to 2023 Nashville school shooting, 7 April 2023, Requested move 7 April 2023

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Anti-white hate crime

Given that the leaked manifesto has been verified as accurate, why does the infobox not have "Anti-white racism" for a motive? --24.125.98.89 (talk) 23:43, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Verified as accurate by whom? News headlines making opinionated conclusions? Mousefountain (talk) 19:28, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

“This police department is extremely serious about the investigation to identify the person responsible,” the police chief said in a statement about the unauthorized release of the writings. “This action showed a total disregard for Covenant families, as well as the court system, which has control of the shooter’s journals at the present time due to litigation filed earlier this year.”

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Cool, so with that out of the way lets just go ahead and put the "anti-White racism" as a motivation and move on. --24.125.98.89 (talk) 18:39, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you so determined to railroad this? 2600:8804:5409:DB00:E363:FA56:C035:934D (talk) 03:33, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is built on the idea of citing reliable news sources. Trying to deride such as "news headlines making opinionated conclusions" does not help to improve the article. - 2A02:810A:12BF:E2A0:E845:1444:4AC6:1AB1 (talk) 18:41, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You would reliable sources that claim this is the motive. I cannot find any reliable sources stating any motive. O3000, Ret. (talk) 19:29, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 10 June 2024

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Rambove (talk) 17:31, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Change the title from 2023 Nashville school shooting to 2023 Covenant school shooting

Not done: page move requests should be made at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Before making a request, please familiarise yourself with the arguments and consensus of the previous discussion that brought about the current page name, Requested move 7 April 2023, and consider if circumstances have changed sufficiently to warrant another move. Liu1126 (talk) 20:01, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The ongoing investigation into the motive behind the 2023 Nashville school shooting: Despite early suggestions that the shooter, Audrey Hale, may have harbored resentment toward her former school, no clear motive has been established. Authorities, including the FBI and Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, have found Hale's writings to be incoherent, indicating possible mental health issues rather than specific ideological motives. The lack of a clear motive has led to public and political speculation, but investigators urge patience as they continue their analysis. Santoshsendha (talk) 12:44, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. --Super Goku V (talk) 19:39, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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