User talk:Thedatrunner

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Welcome!

Hello, Thedatrunner, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, like Diabetes action, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines for page creation, and may soon be deleted (if it hasn't already).

There's a page about creating articles you may want to read called Your first article. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on this page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! DFS454 (talk) 21:54, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Diabetes action

A tag has been placed on Diabetes action requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a company or corporation, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for companies and corporations.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. DFS454 (talk) 21:54, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Help with a first article


Hello, Thedatrunner. You have new messages at Taroaldo's talk page.
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Hi. I got your message and replied on my talk page. You can go directly there by clicking on the blue "messages" link in the template above. Taroaldo (talk) 22:57, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Response

Hello, Thedatrunner. You have new messages at Taroaldo's talk page.
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Hello, Thedatrunner. You have new messages at Taroaldo's talk page.
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Hello, Thedatrunner. You have new messages at Taroaldo's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Article progress

Hi. The article is coming along really well. The layout looks great! Do you know of any reliable third party sources which could be added? Or perhaps some links to scholarly papers which credit Diabetes Action as a funding agency?

The reason I ask is that article creation can be hit-or-miss depending on which editors come across it. The standard notability criteria for non-commercial organisations is:

"Organizations are usually notable if they meet both of the following standards:

1. The scope of their activities is national or international in scale.
2. Information about the organization and its activities can be verified by third-party, independent, reliable sources. (In other words, they must satisfy the primary criterion for all organizations as described above.)" -----This was quoted from WP:ORG which is a defining guideline for organisations to be included in Wikipedia.

A concern in this case is references, which so far appear to be internal. WP:PSTS outlines information on sources and is Wikipedia policy.

In short, the primary Wikipedia policies are:


Although Wikipedia claims it is not a bureaucracy, many of its policies can be overly-complex and spread-out. The best advice when creating an article is to ensure to the best extent possible that notability has been established. Notability varies widely: for example a professional league football player is automatically notable (as long as their qualification is verifiable), but an organisation can face a stiffer test.

This article should succeed, but it is best to "address potential objections before they are raised".

I've rambled a bit with a lot of wikireferences and it's late night/early morning where I am, so please let me know if any part of what I wrote is unclear.

Again, well done with the layout. Cheers. Taroaldo (talk) 08:14, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]