User talk:RoySmith/Archive 61
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Better pic of third rail tips at Valhalla
Roy,
Per your suggestion during peer review for Valhalla train crash, I took the opportunity during another trip down there in late March to take some new pictures. After shooting some with from the crossing itself, I realized a view from the side might make the point better.
So only yesterday did I get around to swapping it in. Do you think that works better? It's not the best quality image since it was a pretty overcast day and I was using my phone (I did take some DSLR pics that maybe I might be able to find a way to upload at some point), crouching in bushes by the side of the track. But it does show that wedge shape. Daniel Case (talk) 02:22, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well, I'll certainly agree with "It's not the best quality image" :-) RoySmith (talk) 16:26, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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Created something you could incorporate into DYK-Tools-Bot
Took me around 30 minutes to whip up User:GalliumBot#minos, which just looks for lost nominations (in Category:Pending DYK nominations that aren't transcluded to WP:DYKN or WP:DYKNA). I could get a whole BRFA to run it myself, but I think it'd probably be easier to create a tracking category/template for it and append it to what DYK-Tools-Bot already does? My source code is available at User:GalliumBot/minos/minos.py :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:18, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Honestly, if you had the heart to make it retransclude the nominations, that'd be even better, but I am not feeling that. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:18, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe. TBH, I found the whole WP:BAG process rather frustrating and unfriendly. I'm not enthused about going back there. RoySmith-Mobile (talk) 12:27, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Honestly, I did too, so fair enough. This is just an add-on to an already approved process, though – should be a cakewalk. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 21:57, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm also seem to be in a non-coding phase these days. I've been working my way through some of my old articles getting them up to GA or FA standards, and that's eating up most of my wiki-time. RoySmith (talk) 00:19, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Honestly, I did too, so fair enough. This is just an add-on to an already approved process, though – should be a cakewalk. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 21:57, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe. TBH, I found the whole WP:BAG process rather frustrating and unfriendly. I'm not enthused about going back there. RoySmith-Mobile (talk) 12:27, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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- There was a bug with the Content Translation interface that caused the tools menus to appear in the wrong location. This has now been fixed. [3]
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2O for a DYK
Hi RoySmith, would you be willing to give a 2O for DYK I have coming up? I'll send an email with the relevant extracts from the sources and my thoughts, please take a look if you're interested or ignore it if you're not. Thanks, Pahunkat (talk) 17:40, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Pahunkat, I'm happy to take a look. You asked about using "tourist destination" in the hook, and I agree with your concern. The source talks about inviting people to come visit the plant, but doesn't actually talk about tourism. I think going with ALT1 would be preferable. RoySmith (talk) 18:20, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for getting back. Alt 1 I'd change to "DYK that the Nabisco Shredded Wheat Factory was
so attractiveused as a marketing tool, with its image was printed on cereal packets until 1960", just so it better aligns with the sources. Now that I think about it, just "used as a marketing tool" is a decent hook in itself and it's taken straight from the book. - I'll raise this at WT:DYK, thanks for your help. Pahunkat (talk) 18:51, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for getting back. Alt 1 I'd change to "DYK that the Nabisco Shredded Wheat Factory was
Re: DYKFICTION
I've always thought the section on WP:DYKFICTION was far too ambiguous for me to make heads or tails of it. Can you do me a favor and take a glance at the hook here and let me know if you think it passes DYKFICTION? I feel like I still don't have a good grasp on this guideline. Viriditas (talk) 21:30, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- To be honest, @Theleekycauldron is probably a better person to ask. RoySmith (talk) 22:02, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 22:07, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
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By the authority vested in me by myself it gives me great pleasure to present you with this barnstar in recognition of the large number of thorough, detailed and actionable reviews you have carried out at FAC. This work is very much appreciated. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:48, 17 June 2024 (UTC) |
- @Gog the Mild thanks. Sometimes I feel like I'm being too harsh, so please let me know if I go overboard. RoySmith (talk) 16:53, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I can't say that I have noticed that, but if I do I shall. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:19, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
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- People who attempt to add an external link in the visual editor will now receive immediate feedback if they attempt to link to a domain that a project has decided to block. Please see Edit check for more details. [8]
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- The dark mode beta feature is now available on category and help pages, as well as more special pages. There may be contrast issues. Please report bugs on the project talk page. [11]
Problems
Cloud Services tools were not available for 25 minutes last week. This was caused by a faulty hardware cable in the data center. [12]
- Last week, styling updates were made to the Vector 2022 skin. This caused unforeseen issues with templates, hatnotes, and images. Changes to templates and hatnotes were reverted. Most issues with images were fixed. If you still see any, report them here. [13]
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Problems
- You can copy permanent links to talk page comments by clicking on a comment's timestamp. This feature did not always work when the topic title was very long and the link was used as a wikitext link. This has been fixed. Thanks to Lofhi for submitting the bug. [20]
Changes later this week
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- Starting 26 June, all talk pages messages' timestamps will become a link at English Wikipedia, making this feature available for you to use at all wikis. This link is a permanent link to the comment. It allows users to find the comment they were linked to, even if this comment has since been moved elsewhere. You can read more about this feature on Diff or on Mediawiki.org. [23]
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Hi Roy, please can you take a look at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie/archive2 whenever you are less busy. Will appreciate your comments. Thanks. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 14:38, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'll take a look, but probably won't be able to review it. Biographies are not really my thing, but thanks for the ping. RoySmith (talk) 20:35, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
First Punic War
Good evening Roy. Could I put a trifle of admin work your way? Would it be possible for you to take a look at the recent edits to First Punic War, and referee the ah, discussion? Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:50, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have applied a Solomon-like solution :-) RoySmith (talk) 22:27, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Gog the Mild just to clarify, The FA banner does say
if you can update or improve it, please do so
, and sometimes that means updates that are less than useful. As an admin, I'm supposed to stay out of content disputes. If this was clearly vandalism, I'd have no problem stepping in with a block or longer-term semi-protection for the page, but I don't think that applies here. I've added the article to my watchlist and I'll keep an eye on it, lets see what happens. RoySmith (talk) 15:55, 30 June 2024 (UTC)- That's fine by me Roy. Thanks for keeping an eye on it. I have no issues with the edits, I do with the ignoring BRD, among others. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:25, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Gog the Mild just to clarify, The FA banner does say
Tech News: 2024-27
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- Over the next three weeks, dark mode will become available for all users, both logged-in and logged-out, starting with the mobile web version. This fulfils one of the top-requested community wishes, and improves low-contrast reading and usage in low-light settings. As part of these changes, dark mode will also work on User-pages and Portals. There is more information in the latest Web team update. [24]
- Logged-in users can now set global preferences for the text-size and dark-mode, thanks to a combined effort across Foundation teams. This allows Wikimedians using multiple wikis to set up a consistent reading experience easily, for example by switching between light and dark mode only once for all wikis. [25]
- If you use a very old web browser some features might not work on the Wikimedia wikis. This affects Internet Explorer 11 and versions of Chrome, Firefox and Safari older than 2016. This change makes it possible to use new CSS features and to send less code to all readers. [26][27]
- Wikipedia Admins can customize local wiki configuration options easily using Community Configuration. Community Configuration was created to allow communities to customize how some features work, because each language wiki has unique needs. At the moment, admins can configure Growth features on their home wikis, in order to better recruit and retain new editors. More options will be provided in the coming months. [28]
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Problems
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