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Question from Brianssw (14:23, 8 May 2024)

Hello Asilvering,

A friend of mine has asked me to create a bio page for her. I have done so in the 'sandbox'. How do I get that published publicly?

Regards, Brianssw --Brianssw (talk) 14:23, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Brianssw, what you've written is basically a linkedin profile, so if you publish it publicly, it will be deleted soon after. Wikipedia is only looking for articles on topics that meet our notability guidelines (see WP:N). Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. -- asilvering (talk) 19:07, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Asilvering My friend, for whom I am trying to create a new Wikepage, already has a Wikipage: Nicole Henry Fine Art. She married and and wants to change the title page name. We could not figure out how to do it. If we could change the title and make other edits, a new page is not necessary. Is changing an existing page's title possible?
Outside of changing the title (if it is technically not possible), Nicole is looking to mimic these pages: George Edward Glass, Duke Buchan. If we used the headers (Early life, Education, Career, Philanthropy, Private Life) of those pages as a template for Nicole's page, would the new page be acceptable? As one sees, we have many links to outside sources, which, as best as I can tell, is the driving factor behind "notability." Brianssw (talk) 12:09, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Brianssw, if you want to keep working on this, before you do anything else, you will need to follow the conflict-of-interest instructions I'm about to leave on your talk page.
Regarding changing a page name, that's simple: basically what we do is move it to the new title. Is the new title you want "Nicole McGraw Fine Art"? Google tells me that business is permanently closed. Is that incorrect? -- asilvering (talk) 21:43, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I found the Conflict-of-Interest page. I don't THINK it applies to me. I am a professional tutor and have worked for her children in that capacity. I have an engineering degree, and Nicole asked me if I would figure out how to change the title of her page, which I could not. I tried to create a new page, and here we are. I have nothing to do with marketing or PR, not even for my own business. I win all my customers through good service which prompts word of mouth recommendations: I just got four inquiries today.
Nicole found quite a few people selling services for getting Wiki-Pages placed for $100's of dollars. She did not want to spend that kind of money on something that should be easy. Apparently, it is not easy ... I can see/appreciate where Wikipedia does not want a lot of junk on the site, through, and therefore has a filtration process.
In any case, her gallery is closed. She got married, and her husband told her that working 7 days a week from morning till evening is not a good way to live: she agreed and closed it down. The new name for the page should be just "Nicole McGraw", highlighting what she did for the gallery, while adding the other business ventures, along with her philanthropy endeavors (she is cooking right now for a fund-raising event as I type). She is interested in adding early life, education, and private life to boot. Brianssw (talk) 23:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about that, I wrote you the previous comment and then forgot to give you the talk page explanation. I've sent you that now. You do have a COI, since you know Nicole personally. Don't worry about the paid stuff at the end of that explanation, since it doesn't apply to you in this case.
Since you want to make an article about her, rather than about her gallery, I don't suggest renaming the old article. It's better to do what you've done and start with a new draft entirely. For it to be accepted, you need to be able to show that she meets WP:NARTIST or WP:GNG. Normally the former is easier (criterion 4d in particular). The other criteria might sound easier to meet, but by "significant" we really mean it - something like documenta, not a local exhibition. Alternatively, if you can find a lot of newspaper coverage of her in relation to her gallery, that might help you show that she meets WP:GNG.
Regarding the paid wikipedia pages, there are some legitimate paid editors on wikipedia, but they follow some very strict guidelines. Anyone charging money for a biography article is almost certainly a scam. If anyone contacts you off-wiki about getting the draft you're working on published, that is very definitely a scam. WP:SCAM has some more details, and an email address for you to report scams if someone tries this on you. -- asilvering (talk) 00:17, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nicole is interested in a 'legitimate paid editor on wikipedia'. How does that work? What is the cost? How do we contact him/her? Brianssw (talk) 15:35, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Brianssw, sorry for not getting back to you earlier. There is a list of paid editing companies at WP:PAIDLIST. You'll notice that almost all of them are "undisclosed paid" - those are scammers. The "disclosed paid" ones are fine. I don't know how active any of them are, or if any of them are for hire. -- asilvering (talk) 10:18, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from MarkWHowe (14:53, 12 May 2024)

Hello. Just found this section and of course have many questions. Yesterday I was working on 'First transcontinental railroad'. I don't recall how it was left but pretty sure it was not 'published', but today there is no record of my editing. Was it deleted? How would I know? --MarkWHowe (talk) 14:53, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @MarkWHowe, sorry for not getting back to you earlier. It looks to me like you didn't make any edits to that article, so they're gone, I'm afraid, unless you've got it cached somehow or left it open in a browser tab. You always need to push "publish" to save your changes. -- asilvering (talk) 10:21, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am new to editing; I have made large edits to some and minor edits to others, and have pushed "publish" as you advise. Now I wonder, are there others that review what I have published and react? Do I need to call attention to my edits to prompt review? &c.? MarkWHowe (talk) 03:41, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MarkWHowe edits only need to be reviewed under some specific circumstances (not applicable in your case), but there are editors that monitor recent edits to check them for vandalism and so on. You don't need to call attention to your edits if you don't want to. If you're hoping to get additional eyes on something you've done, you can write a message on the article talk page, or write a message on the talk page of the relevant wikiproject. -- asilvering (talk) 20:48, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Green GA Editathon June 2024 - Going Back in Time

Hello Asilvering:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a month-long Good Article Edit-a-thon event in June 2024!

Running from June 1 to 30, 2024, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Going Back in Time! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 20 centuries by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

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Question from Caruggeri18 (17:37, 17 May 2024)

Hi, what is the general rule of thumb when it comes to what needs to be vs. what shouldn't be cited? --Caruggeri18 (talk) 17:37, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Caruggeri18, and welcome to Wikipedia! I think the essay at WP:WHEN answers your question, but if you've read that and still have questions, do let me know. -- asilvering (talk) 10:26, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from KAD1427 (04:02, 23 May 2024)

I have observed some of the Wikipedia uploads against my name are without a credible investigation. I want to correct it. --KAD1427 (talk) 04:02, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Red June 2024

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Question regarding the bot policy/alternative accounts

Hey, you mentored me for the start of my Wikipedia editing (and I've been doing pretty well for myself, thanks!), so I figured you'd be a good person to ask this question. I've started to edit with AutoWikiBrowser, but majority of the edits I've done with it are Wikiproject category labeling. These edits are important to my Wikiproject, but they don't have an effect on the rest of the wiki. Should I make an alternative account (following WP:LEGITSOCK), and if I do, do I have to follow the same steps as creating a bot? Also, if I do make the account, how should I request the permission on WP:PERM/AWB? I was wondering this because the edits arent automated, but I don't really want them on my main Wikipedia account. Thanks, BerryForPerpetuity (talk) 14:02, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you don't really want them on your main Wikipedia account, that's a fair reason to make an alternate account. It isn't a bot, so you don't need to follow the steps for bots. If you've properly linked the two accounts (by some obvious notice on your userpage, for example, and naming the other one like BerryForAWB or something), it will be clear to the admin at WP:PERM what's going on when you apply from the AWB account. That said, I don't spend much time at that noticeboard, and you may want to ask one of the admins that handles it if they'd give you the perm on an alt account before you go to the trouble of actually making one. I have seen perm requests denied for "you don't really need an alt account for that" reasons. -- asilvering (talk) 22:01, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from KAD1427 (02:29, 24 May 2024)

Hi..

I would like to discuss the editing issue. Let me know a convenient time.

Thanks --KAD1427 (talk) 02:29, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@KAD1427, simply ask a question here and I'll do my best to answer it. -- asilvering (talk) 22:01, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lead Too Short for Actor/Actress 2

Hello~ Thank you for very kind and details in showing me those ways. I just login again; happy to see your reply... from the topic that got archived. I will try them all! But first I think I need to take care of one draft that I left months ago then go for other actors' articles. Thank you 💖 Miracle for0110 (talk) 09:16, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Miracle for0110 Good luck, and have fun! -- asilvering (talk) 22:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

About Nazran uprising

Hello @Asilvering! I'm sorry to inform that I will be once again not able to answer you points yet in the GA review as I'm little bit busy. I will try to answer them on the Weekend. Best regards, WikiEditor123… 21:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As I'm sure you've noticed I'm also a bit underwater these days, so it's no rush at all. -- asilvering (talk) 22:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Kaffer bbn (04:29, 29 May 2024)

hello --Kaffer bbn (talk) 04:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Kaffer bbn, do you have a question about editing wikipedia? -- asilvering (talk) 22:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Kumar9098 (02:19, 1 June 2024)

Can write any article without adding references ?? --Kumar9098 (talk) 02:19, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No. -- asilvering (talk) 19:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Aeon Trasazz (08:16, 3 June 2024)

how do i find suggested easy work articles that recquire minor changes --Aeon Trasazz (talk) 08:16, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Aeon Trasazz, your newcomer homepage should have some suggestions for you. Do you have anything in particular you're interested in working on? I think Category:Wikipedia introduction cleanup is a good one to start with, since it requires writing but no additional research. -- asilvering (talk) 19:07, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from UnsungHistory (19:24, 6 June 2024)

How do i put a "citation needed"? --UnsungHistory (talk) 19:24, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@UnsungHistory, see Template:CN. -- asilvering (talk) 19:08, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from MarkWHowe on User:MarkWHowe/sandbox (21:56, 7 June 2024)

Hello; re working in sandbox. I have found I must be careful I don't lose what I am working on. The only way I know is to "publish" each time I want to 'save' my work. I assume this is not a real publish since it is in my sandbox and I am just 'playing'. Also I have not been summarizing edits. What is normal protocol.? I like to save my work regularly/ often. --MarkWHowe (talk) 21:56, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MarkWHowe Yes, "publish" is the only way. Sorry it has a confusing name - but you are working live! Any edit you make is published so that anyone on the internet can read it. (They aren't likely to find it, since it's hidden in your sandbox, but anyone can read it if they have the URL.) Normal protocol is to write an edit summary for every edit. I agree this can get a bit silly when you're just working alone. I tend to just say "new paragraph" or "expansion" or "add text from (source)" when I'm working by myself. It might help to think of it this way: if you realized you made a huge mistake in a particular edit and needed to revert it, what would help you find the edit?
Alternatively, some people write their articles in text files on their computer and then copy-paste them to wikipedia when they're ready. You might prefer this if you write slowly but are paranoid about losing your work. Although that describes me, I personally prefer to work online. -- asilvering (talk) 19:15, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! OK, this is a biggie. I note an article 'Cedar Rapids and Missouri River Railroad'; it's actual predecessor is the Chicago Iowa and Nebraska railroad that has no article but the most logical thing would be to combine them in one article. Is there protocol for doing this? A query [or link] for either should bring up the same article. MarkWHowe (talk) 13:24, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MarkWHowe, what we usually do in this case is create a WP:REDIRECT and then, like you suggest, write about the topic in the related article. There's a redirect-creation wizard at WP:MAKER to make that easy for you. -- asilvering (talk) 21:00, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just did that; did it work? MarkWHowe (talk) 03:48, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm trying this for the first time; I tried 'publishing' a query on 'talk' for the CI&N and am not sure what that will precipitate. I used a 'redirect wizard' to cause the Chicago Iowa & Nebraska to bring up the Cedar Rapids & Missouri River Railroad. MarkWHowe (talk) 22:22, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You did it correctly! I've added a wikiproject banner to the talk page of the redirect - no need to redirect that one too, it's fine as-is. You may also want to make one for Chicago Iowa and Nebraska railroad, with "and" rather than the "&". -- asilvering (talk) 17:38, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm some confused. From what you sent I see the redirect, but when I do a search I don't; only the Chicago Kansas and Nebraska. It appears the 'and' has already been substituted for the '&'; the above link in red 'does not exist' but we know it does. I don't know what a 'wikiproject banner' is yet; is it something I should add to my edits? btw I note an illegal citation [3 Milo Smith] but I have a legal one to substitute; thanks everyone for being patient. [or is it legal??]MarkWHowe (talk) 18:58, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Marksant on M. P. Moller (23:08, 11 June 2024)

I would like to add the fact that during WW2, Moller Pipe Organ Co. built wooden aircraft wing spars for the Fairchild Aircraft Co. i have a picture of their stamp from a spar that I’m restoring. --Marksant (talk) 23:08, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've responded to the recent edit at Talk:M._P._Moller. Oblivy (talk) 01:29, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @Oblivy. @Marksant, it looks like you've got this sorted out now? -- asilvering (talk) 03:58, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But I still can’t add the image Marksant (talk) 10:18, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's been added already. Please check. Oblivy (talk) 10:56, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Marksant (02:15, 12 June 2024)

I’m trying to add an image. I never see the “Insert” menu mentioned in the help article.

I’ve uploaded my image to WikiCommons. --Marksant (talk) 02:15, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Bagshaw S R (16:01, 12 June 2024)

Hi, why have you flagged my page for deletion ? 🤷‍♂️ --Bagshaw S R (talk) 16:01, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Bagshaw S R, welcome to wikipedia. I didn't flag your page for deletion - that was @Vanderwaalforces. It looks like you probably wrote a wikipedia article-style biography of yourself on your userpage, which was understood to be promotional both by Vanderwaalforces and the deleting admin. -- asilvering (talk) 20:24, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, Asilvering is correct. See WP:NOTWEBHOST for more information and guidance. Also see WP:Autobiography. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 21:22, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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