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Better Off Dead?

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• ... that a reviewer called a documentary on assisted suicide "so funny"? Source: "What I wasn't expecting was for it to be quite so funny." Better Off Dead review – a powerful (and funny) case against assisted dying
  • ALT0a: ... that a reviewer did not expect a documentary on assisted suicide to be so funny?
  • ALT1: ... that a reviewer said that Better Off Dead? "unnerves you so much you half-wish you hadn't seen it"? Source: "Every so often, a documentary comes along that unnerves you so much you half-wish you hadn't seen it." The week in TV: Better Off Dead?; Bridgerton; The Gathering; The Big Cigar – review
  • ALT2: ... that in Better Off Dead?, there is an automated hotline for assisted suicide? Source: "We hear the automated voice message on the 24-hour Maid hotline that those seeking to die can call." Better Off Dead? review – Liz Carr’s blistering film may well change your mind about assisted dying
  • Reviewed: Grant Hermanns

Moved to mainspace by Sdrqaz (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

Sdrqaz (talk) 03:12, 7 June 2024 (UTC).

• no issues with the article. original hook is bad, taking a quote out of context. alt1 is boring. alt2 is confusing, and made me think that there was a hotline you could call in the documentary. ltbdl (talk) 02:07, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

  Rating this article as a Start seems ... pretty low (is it "developing but still quite incomplete"?). If I may be frank, this review is seems a little harsh. ALT0 was not taken out of context: the reviewer is saying that the documentary was funny, no (see the quote)? I don't know how to address the charge of ALT1 being boring (I thought that something being unnerving and making a reviewer regret watching was interesting), and as for ALT2, I don't really follow: I believe that they did call the hotline in the documentary. Sdrqaz (talk) 14:54, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

  of course the review is harsh, this is going on the main page. as for alt2, the wording is unclear. perhaps say something like "they call an automated hotline"? ltbdl (talk) 16:35, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

  I've added ALT0a, which hopefully addresses the concern of "original hook is bad, taking a quote out of context", given that it is the same formulation as the source. Sdrqaz (talk) 22:58, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

  My 2c: I'd paraphrase so funny to hilarious instead of writing it in Wikipedia's voice; see MOS:QUOTEPOV. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 12:16, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

  @Nineteen Ninety-Four guy and Ltbdl: My interpretation of QUOTEPOV was that attribution was preferred in this instance as "Concise opinions that are not overly emotive can often be reported with attribution instead of direct quotation" (second paragraph). Sdrqaz (talk) 23:55, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

  Right, which is why it should be directly attributed to The Times instead of referring to the publication as merely the reviewer, and so funny should neither be quoted nor written in Wiki's voice since it creates POV issues either way:

• ALT0b: ... that The Times did not expect a documentary on assisted suicide would be that hilarious?

hilarious should be neutral enough with attribution to the source, IMO. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 06:07, 26 June 2024 (UTC)