Talk:Pininfarina B0

Merge with Bolloré Blue Car

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The description makes it obvious that the mechanicals are common to both cars. From the photos, the bodies are obviously different. The B0 is said to be in production since 2009 while the Blue Car seems to aiming for a sharing program in Dec 2011. Unless one or both of these articles is grossly wrong, they seem to be two different cars based on the same mechanicals and electrics. Since both articles are small, it is still feasible to merge them as long as both identities are kept separate.  Stepho  talk  04:24, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose. That's tantamount to wanting to merge Pontiac Grand Am & Chevrolet Monte Carlo because they share a common platform. TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 19:16, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
• Support. The technical content between the two articles is almost the same (some parts are actually copy&paste). The most notable car is the Bollore Blue Car, now in service in the Autolib' carsharing service in Paris. My proposal, mirrowing the article in French (see here- translate with Google) is to keep the unique Pininfarina B0 content as a section.--Mariordo (talk) 02:31, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
• Support. Pinninfarina designed it and Bollore produce it as a joint venture. Therefore in this instance I would imagine the Bollore Blue Car page being the main article featuring a section on the Pinninfarina show car. It's worth noting that apart from certain green blogs there is no evidence that Pininfarina ever put the B0 into production itself. Indeed on Pinninfarina's own page they now call it the Blue Car, and it links to the Bollore website. See the Pinninfarina Blue Bar webpage here Warren (talk) 11:19, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

The Bollore website suggests that it will be sold as the Pinninfarina Bluecar some time in 2011 but apart from Autolib there is no evidence of that happening as yet. Warren (talk) 11:33, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Definitively support the proposal to call the new article Pininfarina Bluecar. The German and Italian wikipedia projects use this name. Only the French wikipedia called it Bolloré Bluecar--Mariordo (talk) 01:24, 14 January 2012 (UTC) After searching a bit, and reading more about the Bluecar's history and development, I think that including Pinninfarina in the name is like calling the Tesla Roadster the Lotus Tesla Roadster (because the gliders were manufactured by Lotus). Pinninfarina developed the B0 concept, attempted to produced the Bluecar with Bolleré, but in the end, Bolleré is in charge, and Pinninfarina only contributed with the glider design (plus most of the articles in other languages are quite dated). Also, thanks to Stepho, I checked the the real name is Bluecar not Blue Car, so at least the article's name needs to be changed. If Warren agrees, the merge should be done to Bolloré Bluecar keeping the Pinninfarina B0 just as a section regarding this concept car, not enough notability to deserve its own article.--Mariordo (talk) 23:39, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Sounds okay to me. Warren (talk) 13:27, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

• Support --Pineapple Fez 00:51, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
• Support -- Johnfos (talk) 00:44, 26 January 2012 (UTC)