Talk:Petroleum

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Potential omission in the first paragraph - last sentance

A fossil fuel, petroleum is formed when large quantities of dead organisms, mostly zooplankton and algae, are buried underneath sedimentary rock under anoxic conditions and subjected to both intense heat and pressure.

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Problematic editor

I'd like to draw attention to the editor ItsCheck, who is repeatedly reverting good-faith edits in an attempt to maintain the inclusion of two irrelevant and politically-motivated sentences at the end of the lead. Arkadios 200 (talk) 07:19, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I have removed this politically motivated content and am working on neutralizing the lead section of the article. There is nothing to worry about here. ItsCheck (talk) 14:04, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Arkadios 200 and ItsCheck: ItsCheck has a point but needs some references. The benefits of petroleum are overwhelming and should be recognized prominently. We wouldn't be sitting here typing away without it. --Smokefoot (talk) 14:11, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The effects of petroleum on society are less relevant than the properties of petroleum itself in an article about the properties of petroleum, and the lead should reflect that. There are other sections of this article, as well as entire other articles, for discussing petroleum's effects on society. Arkadios 200 (talk) 17:22, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Arkadios 200:. Quoting from the opening section "Petroleum exploitation can be damaging to the environment and human health...."--Smokefoot (talk) 18:25, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see how that's either irrelevant or politically-motivated. Arkadios 200 (talk) 22:44, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is not an article about the effects of petroleum, this is an article about petroleum, evident by the title. ItsCheck (talk) 23:28, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Then why are you reverting my edits? Arkadios 200 (talk) 01:10, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In case it was not clear, the statements you have been removing from the article in the past two days are true. Previously they were not completely correct, but I removed the politically motivated part so there is nothing to worry about. I am sorry if this was not obvious. ItsCheck (talk) 23:17, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If they're both true and relevant, feel free to find sources for them. Arkadios 200 (talk) 01:37, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Arkadios 200 I am working on adding sources to both of them. ItsCheck (talk) 22:47, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

revert

At this edit, Editor ItsCheck reverted my edit with the edit summary Citation url is indeed dead, not alive.

In cs1|2 templates ({{cite journal}} in this case), the presence of a url assigned to |archive-url= causes the template to assume that the url assigned to |url= is dead. See these simple examples; this is the default:

{{cite book |title=Title |url=https://www.example.com |archive-url=https://www.archive.org |archive-date=2024-04-02}}
Title. Archived from the original on 2024-04-02.

Adding |url-status=dead to the above example does absolutely nothing except to add extraneous clutter to an article's wikitext; the rendering of the citation is exactly the same as the default:

{{cite book |title=Title |url=https://www.example.com |archive-url=https://www.archive.org |archive-date=2024-04-02 |url-status=dead}}
Title. Archived from the original on 2024-04-02.

As I write this, the live version (permalink) of the article has 76 instances of |archive-url=. Fifty-six of those are marked with |url-status=live. Adding |url-status=live to the above example, does cause the citation to render differently from the default:

{{cite book |title=Title |url=https://www.example.com |archive-url=https://www.archive.org |archive-date=2024-04-02 |url-status=live}}
Title. Archived from the original on 2024-04-02.

My edit should be restored for the reasons just described but more importantly because the revert rebroke this citation.

Trappist the monk (talk) 23:43, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that, I will kindly self revert. ItsCheck (talk) 00:03, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you.
Trappist the monk (talk) 00:24, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

removed US-centric order in history section

Someone thought it would be important that the first oil well was drilled in the US in 1859 (when you only count machine drills!) Wikipedia is not about national pride. I applied chronological order and removed that Guiness Book style remark. 2A01:C22:35F9:8100:3021:F59A:5898:47D0 (talk) 00:41, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Petroleum comes in many colors

Oil is not always "yellowish-black liquid". Different oil fields have different colours, ranging from black to green. I can attach a photo from a Geological Museum that includes _some_ of these colors. Shygeek12 (talk) 09:51, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]