Talk:List of people who have served in all three branches of the United States federal government

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Clutter

I suggest removing the "U.S." and "United States" from their titles as they're all U.S. politicians and it clutters up what could be a busy article.—Markles 21:30, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sherman Minton

Think this man is a good candidate. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 19:55, 25 January 2011 (UTC) Stan[reply]

I guess he is a 'near miss', kind of like William Howard Taft. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 20:09, 25 January 2011 (UTC) Stan[reply]

3 branches

Conversation moved from User talk:BD2412. bd2412 T 20:00, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if John Marvin Jones meets the criteria, but under Bibliography and references

Jones, Marvin (1973). Memoirs; 1917-1973, fifty-six years of continuing service in all three branches of the Federal Government. Edited and annotated by Joseph M. Ray.. El Paso: Texas Western Press.

caught my eye as I had looked at the article after your WP:USCongress mention. Dru of Id (talk) 05:08, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Congressional bio has Executive branch positions. Dru of Id (talk) 05:16, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I would call this a near miss, because the Court of Claims is not an Article III Court, and is therefore not actually part of the Judicial Branch. Cheers! bd2412 T 18:51, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Is the idea here a list of US officials who have served in all three branches of government? If so, I might have a couple of nominees ... there must be a link to an article or list somewhere, but I'm not quickly finding it. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 19:06, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The list is at List of persons who have served in all three branches of the United States federal government‎. Cheers! bd2412 T 19:22, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm ... interesting! Of the three people I was thinking of, two are already listed and the third is Frank M. Coffin, who was a Congressman and a Circuit Judge, but may not meet the Executive Branch qualification if USAID is considered an independent agency rather than an executive one. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 20:51, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, and as for a Court of Claims Judge, you are correct that the Court of Claims is an "Article I court" (no life tenure, etc.), but I don't know if that means that the court is "outside the judicial branch." (I think it is served by the Administrative Office of the Courts; it would be of interest whether the Judges' salaries come from the Judicial Branch appropriations bill each year, and so forth.) Regards again, Newyorkbrad (talk) 20:51, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think when we refer to service in the three branches of government, it is generally understood that we mean the branches as governed by the three articles of the U.S. Constitution under which they fall. Cheers! bd2412 T 20:02, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Serving in Multiple branches

I know my dad served in the air force, in army national guard, and in the Navy. So do believe your list is not accurate. Sure there are more. They don't have to be famous or end up in politics to be the the list. 2600:1007:B03D:9764:44D0:45F8:E843:CFD6 (talk) 19:02, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a list of people who have served in multiple branches of the military, but of people who have served in constitutionally designated roles in each of the three branches of government: as elected members of Congress, as appointed members of the federal judiciary, and as elected or Congressionally approved officers of the executive branch. BD2412 T 20:35, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How is "constitutional office" defined as currently stated in the article?

Does it include individuals holding an "Office of Trust" as portrayed in the Constitution? Lnal141823 (talk) 22:34, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What offices of trust are defined in the Constitution? BD2412 T 02:20, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Office of Trust or Profit is mentioned in the Constitution and consists of all full-time Federal Employees, therefore clarification may be required to differentiate on the emboldened sentence on the front of the article "a list of persons who have served in all three branches", such as by putting "notable" somewhere (as seen in other Wikipedia lists such as list of ambulance drivers during WW1, list of people who lived in airports, etc.) or something that clarifies that the list consists only of people who meet the requirements as shown on the page, and this clarification should be on or near the emboldened part. Other excerpts that redirect to this page may also want to clarify the definition consists of prominent or notable positions, or another term. Lnal141823 (talk) 02:30, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Both "prominent" and "notable" are highly ambiguous with respect to the offices described in the lede. The bar for notability in Wikipedia is relatively low, and unconnected with the constitutional role of an office, such that we have articles like Page of the United States House of Representatives and Lists of law clerks of the Supreme Court of the United States. Prominence is equally relative. Offices to which a person must either be elected in a federal election or appointed by the President with Senate confirmation are much more easily defined, but we don't need to spill a lot of ink in so doing. BD2412 T 03:05, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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