Talk:Dua Lipa

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Semi-protected edit request on 31 August 2021

weird declaration of ethnicity

dua lipa isn't english. she's albanian and british from having a british passport. she has no english ancestry or links to english cultural values at all. 31.94.7.148 (talk) 21:41, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"English" refers to both citizenship and ethnicity. Even though England is not an independent country, it is a constituent country within the United Kingdom. Some people identify more closely with England specifically than with Britain as a whole. Jargo Nautilus (talk) 16:21, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
English isn’t a citizenship. English is an ethnicity. Nationality referred to the citizenship of a country. Therefore, Dua Lipa is a British National/citizen, of Albanian descent.
You can't be a citizen of England? Also why are white people also listed as English yet BME are listed as British? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.149.8.7 (talk) 16:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone born in England, Wales, Scotland, or Northern Ireland makes their citizenship British. Only people with English heritage (I.e. me) are English in blood and British by citizenship.
For example, in Australia, there are the Aboriginals (first peoples of Australia), and then there’s the people that settled there after colonisation. The English are the aboriginals of England. 2001:8003:265E:5D00:CD7D:9C0E:45D3:6B57 (talk) 01:40, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Citizenship and nationality do not perfectly coincide, though it is often challenging to disentangle citizenship, nationality, and ethnicity. In the case of the United Kingdom, although people are British citizens and nationals, there is also regional identification of nationality in the constituent countries.
According to MOS:ETHNICITY, we should take into account regional nationality. British nationality is fairly vague as many, if not most, people have strong claims to regional identity. Because Lipa's biographical and career details are specifically connected to England, "English" is used in the lede. RedBaron12 (talk) 02:21, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Putting her as an “Albanian and English singer” is very misleading. Instead of putting “she is an Albanian singer born in England” or “is a British singer of Albanian descent” putting she is “English” misleads people believing she is both English and Albanian. Dua lipa is very proud of being Albanian, not sure why you can’t change it. Ndndndpo (talk) 15:17, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I do agree that putting “English and Albanian” is quite misleading as you’d usually put that for people who are mixed with said ethnicities. Itsahardknocklife (talk) 13:55, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
She was literally born and raised in The UK, specifically England. MWRPT (talk) 00:43, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's 100% irrelevant.
Do we know when she was born? Would be nice to include in the first sentence. 2A02:FE1:75:7100:18B7:8E62:38BA:C382 (talk) 23:18, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Dua-Lipa
Born London 1995 after parents immigrated.
Note that the Encyclopedia Britannica labels her as 'British-Albanian' 2A01:CB19:38F:BD00:FCD7:E582:89CF:F905 (talk) 20:59, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dua was born in UK but is Yugoslavian. Albanians claim many personalities to be of their own including George Washington, Winston Churchill, Albert Einstein, John Cena, Mother Theresa and even George Kastrioti Skanderbeg. I cannot believe Wikipedia allowing these sorts of misinformation. 2600:1700:36D0:9B0:C48B:1A26:9389:1698 (talk) 23:44, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dua was born in UK but is Yugoslavian. Albanians claim many personalities to be of their own including George Washington, Winston Churchill, Albert Einstein, John Cena, Mother Theresa and even George Kastrioti Skanderbeg. I cannot believe Wikipedia allowing these sorts of misinformation. 2600:1700:36D0:9B0:C48B:1A26:9389:1698 (talk) 23:45, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
per MOS:ETHNICITY, Wikipedia had no preference when it comes to describing someone as either English or British, and while there are many articles that describe English people with multiple citizenship as British rather than English, I don't see a problem with this in particular, especially whey the word "and" is used to avoid implying her ethnicity. Inpops (talk) 17:08, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

England is a nation just as much as Scotland is. Their union does not invalidate that. Britain is an island, not a nation. 2A00:23C8:8F9F:4801:6042:7349:70C0:2A (talk) 18:36, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is no such thing as 'English citizenship' and there is no legal entity called 'English nationality' (although England is, indeed, a nation.) The description should read 'British and Albanian' if it wants to be cast-iron factually and unimpeachable ideologically.
The user who wrote this - "Britain is an island, not a nation" - has missed the further (and only salient) fact i. e. that Britain is a *state*, and thus issues passports and grants legal nationality status. No-one can legally dish out 'English nationality' or an English passport. (Sadly...😁) 2A01:CB19:38F:BD00:FCD7:E582:89CF:F905 (talk) 20:49, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sadly, indeed.
"i. e. that Britain is a *state*, and thus issues passports and grants legal nationality status" is incorrect. Passports are issued by the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Great Britain is made up of England, Scotland and Wales. There is no entity called "Britain" that issues passports, as that would exclude the Northern Ireland part of the UK. 2A00:23C8:8F8A:B700:7D1B:C02:466B:66A0 (talk) 02:50, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
p.s. and no offence is meant by this but i am not sure the americans and australians above should be telling us English Brits when it is appropriate to allow people to be labelled English. 🤗 2A01:CB19:38F:BD00:FCD7:E582:89CF:F905 (talk) 20:56, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If she had been born in LA would you list her as Albanian and Californian or as Albanian and American? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.149.8.7 (talk) 16:06, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I regard it as highly offensive that non-Brits should have the brass neck to tell English Brits who is or isn't English. Those commenters display arrogance as well as ignorance. Dua Lipa simply is NOT 'English'. She is British by virtue of holding British nationality.
Born in London though. UK citizens born in London are English. 2A00:23C8:8F8A:B700:7D1B:C02:466B:66A0 (talk) 02:52, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They are also Londoners, so why not say Londoner? If you are talking about nationality then she has Albanian and British passports. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.149.8.7 (talk) 16:08, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know she even has British citizenship? or are you just assuming? as the UK doesn't have jus soil citizenship, so the children of refugees even if they are born in the UK aren't automatically British citizens. If her parents were from Kosovo she may have Serbian and Albanian citizenship and just indefinite leave to remain in the UK. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.149.8.7 (talk) 16:10, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dua Lipa at the Brits 2024

Due Lipa performed her new song training season at the brits on the 2.3.2024. She also won a award. 82.44.251.125 (talk) 20:37, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 19 March 2024

From the career section

"She continued her acting career with a staring role in the 2024 spy action comedy Argylle.[138]"

Change staring to starring 151.225.230.171 (talk) 19:31, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Jamedeus (talk) 19:50, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

She is not of Labania decent

Due being born in London to Yugoslavian parents is travesty to be called Labanian. She is Yogoslavian not Labanian. RevivedCicero (talk) 03:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where is Labania? 2A00:23C8:8F8A:B700:7D1B:C02:466B:66A0 (talk) 02:52, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not of Labanian decent

The introductory paragraph states that Due is an English and Labanian singer. How is she an English Labanian singer given that her parents were born in Yugoslavia? She is an English Yugoslavian singer not an English Labanian singer. Common Wikipedia stop the propaganda. RevivedCicero (talk) 03:52, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]