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Way 2 (Accepted by the WMF July 31st 2025)

See WikiProjectMed:OWID_popup. We have returned to developing as of Oct 29, 2025.

Way 4 (exists but nothing special)

Adolescent birth rate according to Our World in Data. View interactive graph.

Show a still images and link to the interactive graph on the OWID website.

Plus:

  • Super easy to do, with no blockers from the WMF

Minuses:

  • People leave the WMF website with the method to return being to hit the back button on their browser
  • No ability to translate
  • When people click on the external link it still exposes their IP address to OWID.

Way 5 (does not exist)

We host OWID's software on production servers and pull the data to generate the graphs from Commons.

Plus:

  • Improved security and privacy
  • Would allow translation
  • Data already exists on Commons

Minus:

  • Does not currently exist
  • Would require WMF staff time to get it started and keep it up to date, so likely significantly more expensive.

Way 6 (does not exist)

  • Have a link on the thumbnail styled as a play button
  • Link opens a pop window. Popup window looks basically the same as way 2, except instead of an on-page modal, it is a separate window (or tab)
  • The pop up is hosted on toolforge/wmcloud
  • The popup has a close link that closes the window (Hopefully leading the user back to the page they started on)

Plus

  • No external subresources. All external resources are top-level navigations. Potentially this might be on the right side of the line in the sand when it comes to using external resources in gadgets.
  • Potential to intercept the OWID content and translate it
  • Does not require WMF staff time

Minus

  • It is in a separate window, popup windows aren't popular anymore and might still feel like it is a separate site.

Updating Commons

Alt text

We will need to add this for the still image. Not sure the best way to do so. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:42, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Issues with Way 2

Great project, it would add a lot to Wikipedia and it's nice to see the progress with this! Where should I point out issues with Way 2?
I think having a static image at first page load with some button to view the interactive version would be the best approach (seems like that's "Way 2" here) as it would load quickest and also display something right away even if not signed in and/or having given permission and also works for those who simply prefer to not see the interactive versions or give permission. The problems are that:

  • the play button is broken (it doesn't display the play icon in the middle in Firefox but it the lower half of the circle)
  • the play button should load by default without having to give ublock permission to any external site
  • when clicking the play button it opens the datagraphic in fullsize (the full window) instead of as an element in the article like for "Way 1" – I think it should replace the static image at the place where the image is at in the article just like "Way 1" except maybe on mobile where it could be great to have it show it in fullscreen by default (and also rotate it / the screen)
  • es:Template:OWID is linked underneath it but it seems to just be the static image, not "Way 2"

--Prototyperspective (talk) 12:13, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

User:Prototyperspective way 2 exists on MDWiki and EU WP. The WMF is not happy with it though and it has thus been rolled back on ES WP.
Yah the play button is a little off center in Firefox. It works for me though...
The play button does load by default on MDWiki and EU WP. Permission is requested when you hit the button.
The WMF is not permitting it loading in a full window or the article itself like way 1.
Currently we are working on Way 5 and 6.
Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 13:41, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Do you have a link with the WMF feedback / explanation why it has been rolled back? The play button is very off for me, I could put a screenshot somewhere but that should be fixed before rollout, you could simply use a play icon instead of this thing in a circle. I meant that it doesn't load with the default uBlock settings for Wikipedia but one needs to first unblock more domains. I don't know what you mean with in a full window: that's what it currently does and I asked for it to be loaded as embedded element in the page like with Way 1.
Way 5 does not have a description but if it's just displaying images it loses all the benefits of the interactive element like being able to hover over a country or line point to see the numbers. Way 6 is a separate window instead of the element within the article. --Prototyperspective (talk) 16:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
User:Prototyperspective [1] is feedback from the WMF. Yah we will eventually fix the cosmetic appearance of the play button.
Per "I meant that it doesn't load with the default uBlock settings for Wikipedia but one needs to first unblock more domains." Sorry still not sure what this means.
Yah we could technically have it become interactive like way 1, but the WMF is not going to permit that either.
Still working on Way 5. Give us a few weeks. Still determining just how much we can do.
Yes Way 6 is in a completely new tab. The WMF says this content is not allow to load in a url that states "wikipedia" due to readers possibly getting confused that this content is from Wikipedia and not from OWID. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:31, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Way 3. External link in caption

I am not sure this is allowed on Wikipedia. I think it needs to be labeled "External link". Or "External source link."

I see it for videos. See right sidebar box of video links:

Its caption is "External videos". All the videos are linked from the box.

See: w:Template:External media.

Whatever ways are allowed on Wikipedia, I think they should all link directly back to the OWID source from the Wikipedia caption. Marked "External". --Timeshifter (talk) 15:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

That is basically Way 3. The problem is that it does not permit translation / localization. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:35, 12 July 2024 (UTC)


Fixes needed

  • Move data source to Commons
  • Adjust scrollling on desktop so that up increases the year and down decreases it
  • On mobile change "Back" to "Back to article" and "Back" to "Back to map" same as desktop

Code and contribution

Code repository here


Issue discussion

  • Unable to select various ranges of data[4]
--> could you please elaborate?
When you go here https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:OWID/youth_mortality_rate?owid_list=Template%253AOWID%252Fyouth%2520mortality%2520rate%2523gallery and you put your cursor over the colored bottom bar, it does not highlight the countries in that color as it should. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:31, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
copy, thanks! Booksmurf (talk) 17:51, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
  • When one clicks on the tool such as here, it loads the "|file =" rather than from the "|list = Template" Should load from the template.
Go here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_per_capita&oldid=1314831312 click the play button and this screen loads https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_per_capita&oldid=1314831312&owid_list=Template%253AOWID%252FAnnual%2520healthcare%2520expenditure%2520per%2520capita%2523gallery#/media/File:Annual_healthcare_expenditure_per_capita,_OWID.svg. I think we may have fix this though. Will keep an eye on it occuring again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_per_capita Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:37, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
  • Create option were most recent year is shown similar to OWID

--> Does this mean display the latest year available by default?

First I want the option to simply show the most recent year of data, so for example this template Template:Owidslider we would add a parameter that says "most recent = yes" and than it would show the most recent year if no data exists. Not sure how difficult this will be to build.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:33, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
copy, thanks!
  • 16 to 18 kg not working for highlighting[5]

--> could you please elaborate?

Open this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggs_as_food?owid_list=Template%253AOWID%252Fper%2520capita%2520egg%2520consumption%2520kilograms%2520per%2520year%2523gallery#Culinary_properties put your cursor on the colored bar between 16 kg and 18 kg. Nothing happens. But it works for the rest. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:34, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
Ok, got it, thanks! Booksmurf (talk) 17:49, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
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