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Welcome to the 2024 WikiCup!

Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2024 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor you should be able to advance to at least the second round, improving your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page. Signups will close on 31 January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will move on to round 2. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email), Epicgenius (talk · contribs · email), and Frostly (talk · contribs · email). Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:21, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – January 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).

Administrator changes

added Clovermoss
readded Dennis Brown
removed

Arbitration

Miscellaneous


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:54, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User WP:NOTHERE?

Hi, I've just received interaction from the user Alistair McBuffio regarding the page List of political parties in the United Kingdom, and looking at their contributions almost all of them seem to be highly focused on adding content related to the Far-Right British Democratic Party, regardless of notability or triviliaty. Believe this user may fall afoul of Wikipedia:NOTHERE and is only interested in promoting the party, given their stated support of it on their user page.

Could you as an admin take a look (or if not suggest the best avenue to follow as I'm unsure as to whether it's best to report to ANI or vandalism)

Regards, Rambling Rambler (talk) 17:42, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Rambling Rambler:
1) It's common and normal for someone to edit focused on individual topics of interest to them, and not against the rules.
2) Being a supporter of the BDP is not banned on wikipedia, as unpleasant as you may find them.
3) Alistair McBuffio appears to edit sporadically, with most edits being minor cleanups. It's not exactly a giant POV push.
4) What appears to actually be happening is that you are involved in a content dispute at List of political parties in the United Kingdom with another user, and McBuffio jumped in on their side and reverted all your edits. You're now reaching out to a completely random admin to weigh in on "your side". I'm not familiar enough with british politics to weigh in on who was right, but the next step would be to find other editors to weigh in on how the list should be organized. I recommend asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom for other editors interested in the area for their opinion. --PresN 18:25, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was wary of raising the issue precisely because of that potential it may instead be seen as vindictive reporting regarding the "content dispute" (one that was dealt with a week ago and I consider settled quite frankly). The thing is though I wouldn't need to do it even if I were someone of a vindictive nature because the changes I made are well-supported by Wikipedia policy and therefore just reverting back the insertion of unverifiable/OR content resolves it.
The only reason I felt the need to ask an admin for advice was because, looking through their edits (as sporadic as they may be) the overwhelming bulk of them are to add information regarding a singular political party they state to be a supporter of, and was unsure of at what point it becomes NotHere that I specifically thought best to raise via an admin talk page rather than a more definitive disciplinary board that may cause confrontation.
If you think it doesn't cross that line I don't intend to take it further, just wanted some advice on the matter. Rambling Rambler (talk) 18:38, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TFA

Thank you today for Homeworld, introduced (in 2017): "Claiming the title as the best strategy video game and best computer game of 1999, Homeworld is considered a classic of the genre for a single innovation: it was the first strategy game that was fully 3D, in the sense that units were not restricted to a plane like the ground, but could move anywhere within a sphere of space. Connecting the levels together so that the same plucky fighter ship from level 1 could end up leading a formation against a capital ship 6 levels later was the icing on the cake, and it's no surprise that when the rights came up for auction they were snapped up immediately." -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:57, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I was wondering if you would be interested and free to expand her appearances section. Kung Fu Man and I are doing a B drive on character articles, and I want to improve Asellus, but honestly, I still haven't beaten SaGa Frontier and I don't want to be spoiled, haha. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 15:43, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cukie Gherkin: Never played it either, haha. --PresN 16:05, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, damn lol. Do you know anyone here who may have? Otherwise I'll just buckle down and finish the game. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 16:17, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Cukie Gherkin: You can ask in the discord, but maybe ProtoDrake? --PresN 16:34, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh I'm banned from the Discord for telling a very good joke, but I'll ask ProtoDrake. Thanks! - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 16:36, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TFL notification for March 2024

Hi, PresN. I'm just posting to let you know that World Fantasy Award—Short Fiction – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for March 1. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 22:28, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – February 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).

CheckUser changes

removed Wugapodes

Interface administrator changes

removed

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.

Technical news

  • Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)

Arbitration

  • Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
  • Community feedback is requested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at WP:AE.

Miscellaneous


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:00, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Video games assessment problem

Hi again, PresN. Further to your alert on my talk in regard to the need for individual quality assessment of Video games articles, while reviewing future DYKs I came across Jessica Mak. Although there was no individual assessment on the talk page listing of Video games, the article did not appear as unassessed; indeed, if you look at the history of the talk page, you will see that despite the lack of assessment, the article acquired Category:C-Class video game articles on 26 January when Robo37 introduced the new Banner shell display. I expect many more Video games articles have been updated by bot in this way. If you think it is important, you should perhaps undertake further action. Just to be safe, I added a C class myself. (MSGJ)--Ipigott (talk) 11:03, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ipigott: Ok, excellent, never mind then- it definitely used to not inherit from banner shell/supposedly wouldn't, but it appears that it's now inheriting from banner shell with the exception of A-class, which is exactly what it should do. I didn't know that changed, since Qwerfjkl (bot)'s and Cewbot's runs have been leaving it as-is. Feel free to disregard what I said, then! --PresN 16:41, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. That should make things easier. I don't know if you saw the messages I pinged to you on my talk page but I suggested that with your experience and interests you might perhaps be able to help us along with developing WP:Elit in its initial stages.--Ipigott (talk) 06:38, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Semi-related, the only way in which the VG quality scale differs is that we have no defined "A" class, right? With PIQA, shouldn't we drop this constraint and just go with the new default? IceWelder [] 10:20, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@IceWelder: It's been a long time since we dropped it; feel free to start a discussion at WTVG about reinstating it to see if we still want to stay that way. --PresN 12:55, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FF8 Good Topic

Just letting you know that "Eyes on Me" got merged by @Kung Fu Man:, so it should be good to go as a Good Topic (in which case, should the Characters of FF8 GT be removed in place of it?). - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 07:45, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cukie Gherkin: Thanks for letting me know; I'll hold off for a while to make sure it sticks, since that particular merge has a history of being undone. I'll think about if we should merge the characters subtopic into it as well... --PresN 13:14, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that makes sense. Just so you know, it'll probably get recreated because I'm working on the draft, but I'll split it out only once it's GA quality. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 23:38, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2024 February newsletter

The 2024 WikiCup is off to a flying start, with 135 participants. This is the largest number of participants we have seen since 2017.

Our current leader is newcomer Generalissima (submissions), who has one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher) and 10 GAs and 12 DYKs mostly on New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures. Here are some more noteworthy scorers:

As a reminder, competitors may submit work for the first round until 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February, and the second round starts 1 March. Remember that only the top 64 scoring competitors will make it through to the second round; currently, competitors need at least 15 points to progress. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:58, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Notice

GA Notice
Hello, I just wanted to introduce myself and let you know I am glad to be reviewing the article Microchess that you recently nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period.

Remsense 08:36, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Your GA nomination of Microchess

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Microchess you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Remsense -- Remsense (talk) 08:43, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion of List of primates

Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of primates, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, PresN (talk) via FACBot (talk) 12:26, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New message from 25 Cents FC

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of state presidents of the Indian National Congress/archive1 § List of state presidents of the Indian National Congress. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 13:07, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Microchess

The article Microchess you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Microchess for comments about the article, and Talk:Microchess/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Remsense -- Remsense (talk) 19:22, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

March 2024 GAN backlog drive

Good article nominations | March 2024 Backlog Drive
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(t · c) buidhe 02:39, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FAC

Hey, is there any chance you'd be interested in doing a review for my first FAC? I was just looking around for an editor with video game interest since one of the current reviewers may not be able to complete their review due to off Wiki things. I don't know if you even do FAC reviews, but I figured I'd ask. If you have no time or interest in doing it, no problem. -- ZooBlazer 03:16, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2024 March newsletter

The first round of the 2024 WikiCup ended at 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February. Everyone with at least 30 points moved on to Round 2, the highest number of points required to advance to the second round since 2014. Due to a six-way tie for the 64th-place spot, 67 contestants have qualified for Round 2.

The following scorers in Round 1 all scored more than 300 points:

In this newsletter, the judges would like to pay a special tribute to Vami_IV (submissions), who unfortunately passed away this February. At the time of his death, he was the second-highest-scoring competitor. Outside the WikiCup, he had eight other featured articles, five A-class articles, eight other good articles, and two Four Awards. Vami also wrote an essay on completionism, a philosophy in which he deeply believed. If you can, please join us in honoring his memory by improving one of the articles on his to-do list.

Remember that any content promoted after 27 February but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:41, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – March 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2024).

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. (T353388)

Miscellaneous


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:22, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source reviews needed

Hey PresN, hope you're well and thanks again for all that you do. I was wondering, if the only thing holding up my FLC nominations (1 and 2) is a source review, am I allowed to list it under source reviews needed myself? Hey man im josh (talk) 20:51, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Hey man im josh: Yes, absolutely, feel free. (And the Bills list, at minimum, will get checked in my next pass). --PresN 03:56, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, I recognize you've got a lot on your plate and I'm in no way trying to pressure you! Just wanted to check if I was okay to do that, which I very much appreciate your answer on :) Hey man im josh (talk) 20:21, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Outer Wilds

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Outer Wilds you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of A412 -- A412 (talk) 22:03, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Outer Wilds

The article Outer Wilds you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Outer Wilds and Talk:Outer Wilds/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of A412 -- A412 (talk) 05:43, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Outer Wilds

The article Outer Wilds you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Outer Wilds for comments about the article, and Talk:Outer Wilds/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of A412 -- A412 (talk) 20:45, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey PresN! I saw that you did a copyedit of the lead, and wanted to let you know that I do plan on overhauling this article soon; just in case if you planned on going any further. Panini! 🥪 00:16, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Panini!: Nah, I just checked it out from your discord comments and was briefly annoyed by the "3 years ago Nintendo announced something that happened that same year" writing, and then got confused about whether the DS version was also being shut down. Don't intend on editing it further. --PresN 00:45, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

By the way

Re [1], I was going off the main article on the subject, Primate, which says "Primates are a diverse". You may want to change that as well then (and I would highly recommend adding a hidden note with your explanation to the main article, or another editor will probably change it back).

Also re [2] — this is done manually by the coordinators, so you can save it for us! In any case, congratulations! Aza24 (talk) 04:36, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Best Game or Interactive Work

Will you be making a page for the category now that the 2024 nominations have been announced? Also, what do you think of my suggestion regarding the Best Video Game run? (I was going off the example of Best Related Work, though I admit that Best Non-Fiction Work was given for more than one year). You have more experience fleshing out the Hugo category pages than I, but please let me know if I can assist in any way. FreeChurros (talk) 04:00, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@FreeChurros: Yeah, I plan on making the new list once I get through updating the others; I agree with you about putting the best video game one-off year there too. --PresN 13:58, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – April 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).

Administrator changes

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Technical news

  • The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)

Arbitration

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  • Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:48, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Awards accessibility

I'm reverting your reversion of my colour changes. #B0C4DE is AAA compliant against black foreground text, but almost all rows have #36c links, instead of black unlinked text. If you look at the WebAIM contrast checker, #36c on #b0c4de fails WCAG AA for colour contrast. — OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk) 17:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@OwenBlacker: You're right, I checked against black, not blue. Thanks for updating them. --PresN 18:23, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No problem; easily done. I only noticed in the first place because my eyesight struggled with the contrast 😅 OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk) 18:25, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. Can you please close this FLC as you're the director? I believe it has gained substantial support now and the nomination is quite old. Please don't mind that I've personally sent you a request. Actually, I'll go for a wiki-break after 16 April. So, it will be difficult for me to reply to your concerns (for ex- source review/table review). Thank you. RoboCric Let's chat 17:44, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion of List of erinaceids

Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of erinaceids, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, PresN (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2024 April newsletter

We are approaching the end of the 2024 WikiCup's second round, with a little over two weeks remaining. Currently, contestants must score at least 105 points to progress to the third round.

Our current top scorers are as follows:

Competitors may submit work for the second round until the end of 28 April, and the third round starts 1 May. Remember that only competitors with the top 32 scores will make it through to the third round. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs. As a reminder, competitors are strictly prohibited from gaming Wikipedia policies or processes to receive more points.

If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please read Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring. Further questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:06, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Laya's Horizon

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Laya's Horizon you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Vrxces -- Vrxces (talk) 01:01, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]