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New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019

Hello MusikAnimal,

Backlog

Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.

Coordinator

A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.

This month's refresher course

Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.

Deletion tags

Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon (you will need to have 'Nominated for deletion' enabled for this in your filters) may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders using Twinkle. They require your further verification.

Paid editing

Please be sure to look for the tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. WMF policy requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.

Subject-specific notability guidelines' (SNG). Alternatives to deletion
  • Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves once more with notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
  • Blank-and-Redirect is a solution anchored in policy. Please consider this alternative before PRODing or CSD. Note however, that users will often revert or usurp redirects to re-create deleted articles. Do regularly patrol the redirects in the feed.
Not English
  • A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, and if they do have potential, tag as required, then move to draft. Modify the text of the template as appropriate before sending it.
Tools

Regular reviewers will appreciate the most recent enhancements to the New Pages Feed and features in the Curation tool, and there are still more to come. Due to the wealth of information now displayed by ORES, reviewers are strongly encouraged to use the system now rather than Twinkle; it will also correctly populate the logs.

Stub sorting, by SD0001: A new script is available for adding/removing stub tags. See User:SD0001/StubSorter.js, It features a simple HotCat-style dynamic search field. Many of the reviewers who are using it are finding it an improvement upon other available tools.

Assessment: The script at User:Evad37/rater makes the addition of Wikiproject templates extremely easy. New page creators rarely do this. Reviewers are not obliged to make these edits but they only take a few seconds. They can use the Curation message system to let the creator know what they have done.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:15, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Brilliant Idea Barnstar
For the development of your many scripts, especially those that help admins in their work. I have come to rely upon them and find them invaluable. Thank you. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:05, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Aww, this is very sweet! Thank you Kudpung! :) MusikAnimal talk 01:15, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

A message from Chasebalo

Hello MusikAnimal, I would appreciate you to guide me through getting an article posted - its a biography of someone. Thanks in advance. Chasebalo (talk) 07:14, 12 September 2019 (UTC) Chasebalo (talk) 07:14, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello Chasebalo! You will want to submit your article for review. I have moved it to Draft:Obi Peter Adigwe (the draft namespace is where we normally put draft articles). I see a lot of issues with this page, mostly formatting and lack of links to other articles. You may also need to work on removing promotional wording, as it almost reads like a resumé. Help:Your first article offers some helpful tips. I've also left a welcome template on your talk page that might further assist you. Whenever you think your draft is ready for review, just click on the blue "Submit your draft for review!" button, then hit "Publish changes". Hope this helps, MusikAnimal talk 00:22, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Thank you once again MusikAnimal for taking out the time to respond to my enquiries/queries. I will act on the article accordingly and revert in the shortest possible time. Warm regards! Chasebalo (talk) 15:44, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Not in wish-list ...

but, can you kindly help out as to Wikipedia:Page_Curation/Suggested_improvements#49._Notifying_creators_of_tags?

No expert but looks like it will need some changes over [1] ( delivery of t/p message is currently set as conditional, subject to a note) and accordingly, here.

Also, I have pointed out another problem over here .... WBGconverse 11:15, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

FWIW I see that the ability to add a personal note (while tagging an article) was committed on 8 August, 2012 by Benny Situ.
I note that Steven had created both the templates at Template:Taggednonote-NPF and Template:Taggednote-NPF, a day before but the former won't get integrated to PageTriage, ever. Probably an omission? WBGconverse 11:54, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 38, 2019)

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Miniature book

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Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 16 September 2019 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Opt-out instructions

MusikBot appears to be down

It didn't do the midnight update for DYK, and DYKUpdateBot was also down at the same time, so I suspect both got hit by the same problem. I've made the update at Template talk:Did you know by hand, so we're set there for now. Thought you'd want to know. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:20, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. There are apparently networking issues across all of Wikimedia right now, that's likely the culprit. Release engineering is aware. MusikAnimal talk 01:44, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 39, 2019)

Animation illustrating the discovery history of satellite galaxies of the Milky Way over the last 100 years. The classical satellite galaxies are in blue (labeled with their names), SDSS-discoveries are in red, and more recent discoveries (mostly with DES) are in green.
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Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 23 September 2019 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Opt-out instructions

General

Hi Musik

i'd like to know how your bot checking user mainspace edit ? i mean i want to check my mainspace edits can your bot update individuals edits of users like me ?

پاک آرمی زندہ باد (talk) 11:49, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi پاک آرمی زندہ باد, you can use the XTools Edit Counter to get this information. Hope this helps, MusikAnimal talk 17:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

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Rhododendrites talk \\ 20:25, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

CVU Anti-Vandalism Award
This is for your outstanding performance in saving Wikipedia from the harmful threats of vandalism. I appreciate your efforts and hardwork. You are a great defender of Wikipedia. Thank you for your selfless works. Regards. PATH SLOPU 15:15, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
Much appreciated! I see you've been doing some recent changes patrolling as well. Thank you for that and keep up the great work! :) MusikAnimal talk 15:28, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 40, 2019)

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Aaron Fechter

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The Signpost: 30 September 2019

16:50, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – October 2019

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2019).

Guideline and policy news

  • Following a discussion, a new criterion for speedy category renaming was added: C2F: One eponymous article, which applies if the category contains only an eponymous article or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories.

Technical news

  • As previously noted, tighter password requirements for Administrators were put in place last year. Wikipedia should now alert you if your password is less than 10 characters long and thus too short.

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

  • The Community Tech team has been working on a system for temporarily watching pages, and welcomes feedback.

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This week's article for improvement (week 41, 2019)

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Frenemy

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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 9

15:35, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

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Failed Geonotice

Hi, why was this geonotice rejected? User:MusikBot II/GeonoticeSync/Report says Failed for unknown reasons. Check the error log, but the error log was last written to in July 2019. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:40, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) URL shorteners are blacklisted, so the bot was hitting the spam blacklist. I replaced the link. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:35, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
@Redrose64: Looks like a bug in the messaging! The "error log" link was pointing to User:MusikBot/PermClerk/Error log when it should be User:MusikBot II/GeonoticeSync/Error log. That log clearly shows the issue. I've fixed the message, and thanks to JJMC89 for fixing the geonotice itself. MusikAnimal talk 04:30, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
Thank you both. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:07, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Gadgets with imports

Was looking through some of these today, we have multiple gadgets with imports. Some are x-wiki imports that haven't been touched at their "source" in years, some are actually to userland. Thinking about at LEAST putting some sort of user-land-imported-warning notice on the gadgets descriptions... — xaosflux Talk 20:41, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: A warning seems good, but we really should copy them over to the MW namespace, either here or on the foreign wiki. It sounds like a full audit is in order. I don't think we need approval from the maintainers (though of course let them know afterwards). Gadgets should never originate in the userland, period. If the maintainer is an int-admin (on any wiki), the issue is not as pressing, but I'd like to go ahead and migrate some, e.g. this one, barring objections? MusikAnimal talk 21:03, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
I think we should do an audit first and get a handle on how big the issue is, the one you referenced has been somewhat recently updated so that could be the kind of issue that needs a fix in place first. — xaosflux Talk 21:42, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
(stalking) Third this, as well as getting some level of organization to what ends up in MWspace, etc. ~ Amory (utc) 01:12, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 42, 2019)

The U.S. Navy guided missile cruiser USS Josephus Daniels (CG-27) maneuvers around an island as it passes through the Strait of Magellan en route to Punte Arenas, Chile, on 1 July 1990, during exercise "Unitas XXXI", a combined exercise involving the naval forces of the United States and nine South American nations.
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Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:15, 14 October 2019 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Opt-out instructions

Bot clerking for previously declined requests for rollback uses insecure HTTP links

Look at this edit:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Rollback&curid=18462781&diff=921072529&oldid=921072458

MusikBot added this text (emphasis mine):

::{{comment|Automated comment}} This user has had 1 request for rollback declined in the past 90 days ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PermaLink/907942788#User:99721829Max]). <!-- mbsig --><span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <b>[[User:MusikBot|<span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikBot</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:MusikAnimal|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]]</sup></b></span><!-- mbdate --> 17:50, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

The bolded link should be HTTPS. Please change how this works, for security. Your bot is great, thank you!

Or, in haiku, for fun:

your bot was being

insecure, its link was, too

it's still very nice

— Preceding unsigned comment added by DemonDays64 (talkcontribs)

This should be fixed now. Thanks for letting me know, and for the haiku! MusikAnimal talk 20:24, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

23:55, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

PERM

You probably aren't aware just how useful your bot(s) and scripts actually are to those of us admins who regularly work the PERM requests. As one of the long-term regulars at PERM, I can't imagine being without them today. I just have one request at this stage: Would it be possible to also automate the 'not done' response to send a message to the applicant containing the rationale for non-approval? I'm thinking in terms of the window that is already used for the 'accorded' feature. Such a message could be something like: "Thank you for applying for the 'xxxx' user right. I'm sorry to inform you that the right has not been accorded at this time because [admin comment to be inserted here]. However, do keep up the good work and don't hesitate to apply again when the reasons have been addressed". Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:10, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words! I like this idea! There currently isn't a "decline" popup, like you see with "assign permissions". We'd need to add a new link. I also think sending a message to the applicant should be optional. This is all perfectly doable, but it will require time I don't have at the moment. I'll put it on the list of to-dos. Best, MusikAnimal talk 03:50, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

A message from Nononodo

How can i leave a reference? It is fact and should be added. Sorry for not providing substantial proof. Nononodo (talk) 17:42, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

@Nononodo: See WP:INTREF. However your claim, even if sourced, may not be acceptable here. Wikipedia takes contentious information about living persons very seriously. Given this individual is relatively unknown, I would refrain from including this information at this time unless there is a conviction. More at WP:BLPCRIME. MusikAnimal talk 17:53, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Understood. Thank you for clarifying — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nononodo (talkcontribs) 08:37, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Editing News #2 – Mobile editing and talk pages – October 2019

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Please tell us a story about how you used a talk page. Please share a link to a memorable discussion, or describe it on the talk page for this project. The team would value your examples. These examples will help everyone develop a shared understanding of what this project should support and encourage.

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Edit Cards

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Toolbar

The editing toolbar is changing in the mobile visual editor. The old system had two different toolbars. Now, all the buttons are together. Tell the team what you think about the new toolbar.
  • In September, the Editing team updated the mobile visual editor's editing toolbar. Anyone could see these changes in the mobile visual editor.
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Wikimania

The Editing Team attended Wikimania 2019 in Sweden. They led a session on the mobile visual editor and a session on the new talk pages project. They tested two new features in the mobile visual editor with contributors. You can read more about what the team did and learned in the team's report on Wikimania 2019.

Looking ahead

  • Talk Pages Project: The team is thinking about the first set of proposed changes. The team will be working with a few communities to pilot those changes. The best way to stay informed is by adding your username to the list on the project page: Getting involved.
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  • Measuring the impact of Edit Cards: The Editing team hopes to share results in November. This study asks whether the project helped editors add links and citations. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: Edit Cards project page.

PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 16:51, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

A message from 96.245.124.79

Kevin Cramer: edit

Hey there, I just got a friendly note from you explaining that you had reverted one of my recent contributions "because it did not appear constructive." I appreciate you taking the time to explain this to me, because I would otherwise have certainly changed it back again, and think myself virtuous for doing so.

In fact, I'm fairly sure I WAS being constructive. The edit in question is to the subhead title in the article about North Dakota GOP Senator Kevin Kramer. The subhead is clearly about the senator's (fawning) relationship with Donald Trump. A vandal changed the subhead to title to read "Donald Duck" instead of "Donald Trump" as a joke. Now, I actually think that's a pretty solid joke, and I would normally have chuckled and left it alone. But I decided uncharacteristically to take a moment to fix the title to what it obviously should read: "Donald Trump," the real-life president, who is more likely to feature in a US senator's biography than a fictional cartoon duck.

I say all this because I assume you are an editor in good faith, and not a funny jokester, who probably assumed that I was playing around with a controversial political figure's wikipedia page for lolz. So I thought you ought to know that somebody did do exactly that, but it wasn't me, and you've put it back to the joke version. Thanks, and have a good day!

96.245.124.79 (talk) 03:50, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

My apologies! This was entirely my mistake. I reverted your edit while patrolling recent changes and must have misread the surrounding text, as I recall seeing Donald Duck, and thinking Trump was the vandalism! I have restored the joke-less version. Thank you for the thoughtful reply, and I hope I haven't deterred you from making further contributions like this, because they are very much appreciated. Warm regards, MusikAnimal talk 04:58, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 43, 2019)

A vignette thought to represent Medjed, Greenfield papyrus, British Museum
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Medjed (god)

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14:38, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Please adjust page protection

Please adjust the page protection settings on the following pages. As discussed at there is clear community consensus that ECP should not apply for "high risk templates" and nothing under WP:ECP supports such protection to this/these template(s) (example: "by request" is insufficient).


Thank you. Buffs (talk) 16:30, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

@Buffs: Thanks for making this list! To be clear, we were experiencing continued template vandalism from both unconfirmed and confirmed accounts, so this was a sort of IAR thing (you'll notice I was actually in the oppose column in that RfC :). The problem is the vandal(s) were running queries to find these templates, rather than doing random drive-by vandalism, so preemptive protection made sense. I believe the RfC predated this wave of vandalism. I posted what I did to Special:Permalink/885696008#Scan/check for unprotected high risk modules? to no opposition. See also the bot proposal where some folks did raise concerns about using ECP, and the bot is not using it. The thought is that RfC is a bit out of date, but I didn't (and still don't) have the time and energy to start another RfC. I don't recall ever protecting templates "by request", unless that was one of my fellow admins asking me to do another semi-automated run (we've done several over the years). Anyway, I have adjusted the protection levels for these templates. Some I moved to template-protection now that they have more transclusions, the rest were lowered to semi, consistent with the bot behaviour. Kind regards, MusikAnimal talk 17:19, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
In that case, template protection (not WP:ECP) would be the method you should use, if I'm not mistaken. Buffs (talk) 19:27, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
LOL! Sorry, misread the last bit. Thanks! Buffs (talk) 19:40, 17 October 2019 (UTC)


Would you be so kind as to review these? You seem to have skipped over them:

Thanks! Buffs (talk) 16:24, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

 Done MusikAnimal talk 15:45, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

There's some overlap between the BS that was happening there and the Augusto Pinochet article. One vandal copied the entire Pinera article into the Pinochet article. Is this where it started? Drmies (talk) 03:56, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

And now this, History of Chile. Drmies (talk) 04:11, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
@Drmies: Eek! What a mess! I think Sebastián Piñera is finally back to being stable. It's a bit embarrassing this free-for-all on such a high-profile article lasted so long before it was finally semi'd... I think we're short on Argentinian editors! I would have expected at least some constructive edits. Thanks for your help! MusikAnimal talk 04:18, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
My pleasure. It's somewhat odd to find that in those articles. I only noticed something when I saw that 63k copy and paste job. But I think we got it, at least for now, with thanks to El C also. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 04:21, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
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This week's article for improvement (week 44, 2019)

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Audience

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16:16, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 October 2019

PERM

I see you archived this before I saw your reply. Thanks for looking into it. I realise you are busy - any idea of a time frame? It could give the admin the dropdown choice of:

  1. Decline (just adds the {{not done}} template, signature, and 'not done' as the ES).
  2. Decline & notify user (like the current 'assign' form)

Cheers, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:30, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Tough to say when I could get around to it. Right now I'm finishing up the new version of m:MoreMenu, then I'm going to revive toolforge:mediaviews. Of course, if any other techies following this discussion want to help with userRightsManager, I'd more than appreciate it! I do think it is a good idea. Instead of a dropdown I might suggest having two links: "assign permissions" and "decline", the latter will open up the decline popup where you can optionally add a message to the user's talk page. You'd also get a dropdown of what decline template you want to use, pulling in the options from User:MusikAnimal/responseHelper. MusikAnimal talk 18:20, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
Sure, see User:SD0001/userRightsManager.js. This was quickly hacked together in 30-40 minutes. I've not attempted to do a dropdown for decline template options - though might consider it over the weekend. The assign permissions code is untouched, so should work as before; the decline code is largely duplicated from that - I've tested it and it works, though not exhaustively. Also, it's worth looking into putting in a textarea field rather than the constrained single-line text field, into which I dunno how admins write large rationales.
Kudpung, for the user talk page notifications to work, you'll need to create the templates first, because decline notification templates don't exist. If you use this script and encounter any issues, do let me know. SD0001 (talk) 14:01, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
This is amazing, thank you SD0001! I did not fully test this, and I see some display issues, but we can iron those out. Indeed we will need a user talk template for this. Once that's created, I'll help test your version and merge into mine, and I'll also be sure to add you as a co-author at User:MusikAnimal/userRightsManager :) As for the decline template dropdown, I was going to have it pull from User:MusikAnimal/responseHelper (since it is widely used and well-maintained), but currently the list there isn't publicly exposed. I can take care of that, but also userRightsManager will need to prompt for additional input based on the type of template. For instance {{RFPR}} takes a parameter for the exp decline, noting the number of mainspace edits the user has made (the PERM bot will report this, so admins usually just copy/paste). This might be a bit more complicated. I think the plain form for declining is fine for now. Thanks for your help, MusikAnimal talk 17:25, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
SD0001, this sounds excellent . How can I test it without copying 503 lines of code to my user js page? It is designed so that only admins can use it? (needs to be). Can it be used without each admin needing to put it individually into their js page? I will gladly write the texts for the canned rejection reasons (they don't need to be more than a few words each) and the text wrapper for the rejection message template. I can do this very quickly but I won't be able to insert them into the code - I'm not a programmer. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk)
Kudpung, to use it, simply add importScript('User:SD0001/userRightsManager.js'); to your common.js page. If/when you've created the templates (you can use the permission granted templates as a reference for structure), tell me so that I or MA can insert them into the code. SD0001 (talk) 05:34, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
SD0001, I was impatient to see what you have done so I already pasted the 500 lines of code, but I'll change that again when I get a moment. Actually, I think I was being a bit too ambitious with the drop down idea and I think we can dispense with canned reasons, leaving the admin free to add his/her own comments. Probably all we need is the template message. Here is the wording:

<includeonly>{{safesubst:<noinclude />require subst|template=New Page Reviewer declined|1=</includeonly>[[File:Wikipedia New page reviewer.svg|right|80px]] Hi {{safesubst:<noinclude />BASEPAGENAME}}. Thank you for your request for "<code>{{safesubst:<noinclude />int:Group-patroller}}</code>" user group. Unfortunately it has not been granted at this time. Please check back at PERM for the administator's reason(s) - you may be able to apply again when the requirements have been satisfied. <!-- Template:New Page Reviewer granted --> ~~<noinclude />~~<includeonly>}}</includeonly><noinclude> {{documentation}} </noinclude>

Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:33, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Logging ECP pages

Hey MusikAnimal, I was looking through the logs of all ECP pages. I'm not seeing that the logs have been updated for the pages you put under ECP. Am I missing something? Shouldn't they be logged?

In the big picture of things, I know this is a highly manual and unnecessarily tedious process I wish could be MUCH more automated. Until that happens, I think we still need to do this. If you could please add yours to the relevant year's/years' log, it would be appreciated. Buffs (talk) 15:43, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Yes, a very tedious task that I'm afraid I don't have time for right now. If I remember correctly, I did not put these pages under discretionary sanctions, rather I helped with the technical means to enforce them. Originally semi is all we had, then the edit filter was used, and once extended-confirmed protection was implemented I helped apply it to the existing pages. E.g. [16][17][18]. There might be a few in there I was solely responsible for, but I'd be surprised because arbitration enforcement and imposing discretionary sanctions, etc., is not my expertise. MusikAnimal talk 16:42, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
I'm curious as to why you say you don't have time? You seem to be doing many other edits. Buffs (talk) 19:56, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
I do not see this as a urgent matter at all. If I forgot to log something 3.5 years ago, I apologize, but I don't see an overwhelming need to drop everything I'm doing to rectify it. Besides, as I said, I don't immediately see any pages that I myself put under arbitration enforcement. I left one example above. I checked a few others, such as Bhumihar, and while I did add the extended-confirmed protection, this as I recall was purely me providing technical assistance. The sanctioning was done by others [19]. Arbitration enforcement is very much out of character for me, and I'd rather disengage if at all possible. Technical matters meanwhile are within my expertise, and I suspect (or at least hope) my involvement with arbitration enforcement did not extend beyond that. You are not in the wrong for bringing this issue to my attention, but I'd appreciate your patience and sympathy that the tedious work of retroactive logging is of questionable cost/benefit at this stage. That said I do accept responsibility should I have myself imposed any sort of sanctioning, but I have yet to find examples. If you do, it'd be greatly appreciated if you could point them out. Kind regards, MusikAnimal talk 21:08, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
I found these discussions from the filter notes: [20][21]. This I think exemplifies my involvement was limited to the technical implementation. MusikAnimal talk 21:16, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
I never asked you to "drop everything". I'm just asking if you're going to take care of it. If the answer is "no", I guess we'll go a different route. Buffs (talk) 16:41, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
Buffs, it came across to me as a mild reproach. Bear in mind that MusikAnimal has only been around since 2011 but already has 122,179 edits - compare. That said, ECP is an important and very useful level of protection, but due to all the unnecessary kerfuffle around it, I and many other admins never use it. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:25, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
It is a mild reproach. Admins are expected to follow the policies of WP and this is an instance where an admin has not done so. I asked for it to be followed and, rather than say "Ah, you have a point. I'll get that taken care of within a few days/weeks", the response was (effectively), "I'm not interested in doing that, so I'm not going to". IMNSHO...wrong response...
Additionally, re:...due to all the unnecessary kerfuffle around it, I and many other admins never use it, that "additional kerfuffle" is intentional and serves to dissuade flippant application of ECP. It is not a flaw, but a feature intended to provide clear oversight and application. Buffs (talk) 15:04, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
I thought I made it very clear I didn't impose the sanctions on these articles. I was asked to help with implementation, so I did. Respectfully, I feel like you're intentionally going around giving some of us a hard time, calling out well-meaning admins for trivial and/or very old actions that are largely non-issues. In particular, I found the questioning of my use of time to be offensive. Surely you agree this is not an urgent matter. If the logging means this much to you, why not be bold and update it yourself? I cannot provide anymore rational than what the protection log itself says, for one because it was so long ago, but also I don't think I applied the sanctions to begin with. If you wanted to take the wording so literally, allow me to quote All sanctions and page restrictions must be logged by the administrator who applied the sanction or page restriction. I did not do this, to my recollection. Please correct me if I'm wrong. The 30/500 restriction existed before the protections were applied, they just were manually enforced. Eventually we used the edit filter (which is where I came in), and once ECP was implemented I helped apply it to the already-sanctioned articles. I was trying to help my colleagues. If I knew I was going to be hounded about this years later, I wouldn't have done it. I am not trying to be stubborn, I just have yet to see why I am being singled out. I take it you are not a fan of ECP. You may be interested to know that at least in terms of preemptive protection, I'm not either (the templates were a different matter, as you already know). My bot populates User:MusikBot/ECPMonitor/Report, which is transcluded at WP:AN so people can monitor its usage. I doubt this changes your opinion of my actions, but I thought I'd share it anyway. Thanks for your understanding, MusikAnimal talk 17:59, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
First, I'm not singling you out. I've left messages on about a dozen other admin pages. I have not applied it is that I don't want to be accused of doing something that should be confined to Admins. Almost all of the other admins I've spoken to have said "Hey, you have a point  Done". I am perplexed as to why you don't think you were the one that applied ECP to the articles in question. It's right there in the logs.
Second, I concur it's not a pressing matter (in that there are not exigent circumstances), but it also needs to be done IAW WP:ECP and WP:ArbCom's ruling on the matter. I disagree that they are trivial or non-issues. If ArbCom states that they need to be done, then they need to be done when such restrictive access is applied.
Lastly, I'm sorry if you find this disrespectful. I'm coming to you first OUT of respect for both you and your position within WP. Buffs (talk) 03:07, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter November 2019

Hello MusikAnimal,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon.

Getting the queue to 0

There are now 820 holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action.
Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.
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Coordinator

Admin Barkeep49 has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers.

This month's refresher course

Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources.

Tools
  • It is now possible to select new pages by date range. This was requested by reviewers who want to patrol from the middle of the list.
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Second set of eyes
  • Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work, especially while some routine tagging for deletion can still be carried out by non NPR holders and inexperienced users. Read about it at the Monitoring the system section in the tutorial. If you come across such editors doing good work, don't hesitate to encourage them to apply for NPR.
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News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2019).

Guideline and policy news

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Arbitration


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This week's article for improvement (week 45, 2019)

Concert attendees at the Electric Daisy Carnival, Los Angeles, California, 2010
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Bot bug

Hi, just wanted to tell you that your bot kind of messed up reporting the unprivating of filter 31 in this edit. Just though may want to know! ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 20:23, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, long-standing bug that I just never got around to fixing. Thanks for letting me know, though! It's nice to see people are using this report. MusikAnimal talk 04:00, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

NPP Backlog chart

Hey musik, sorry to bother you. Is there any chance of having an 'all time daily' option for the Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Backlog_chart? While the weekly data does suffice for the all-time chart, it doesn't quite reflect the day-to-day grind that NPP is, and I would prefer to have at least the option of having the daily data in an all time chart if it isn't too much trouble. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)(click me!) 04:52, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

FYI

Hello M. Your bot seems to have stopped removing pp templates as the Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates is filling up each time I log back on to the 'pedia. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 19:25, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping! It should be fixed now. Hope all is well MusikAnimal talk 04:15, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
You are welcome M. I'm hanging in there :-) Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 05:11, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 10

This week's article for improvement (week 46, 2019)

The Coleco Gemini video game console, a console clone of the Atari 2600 produced by Coleco in 1983
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Filter 994

Hi MA, wondering if filter 994 could possibly be modified to detect pages similar to Template:Please leave this line alone (Wajahat Sami). This one did not trip the filter, but appears to be exactly what the filter is intended to catch. Home Lander (talk) 21:32, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

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Saturday November 16, 12:30 pm - 4:30pm: Metropolitan Museum of Art Edit-a-thon

The Wikipedia Asian Month Edit-a-thon @ The Met will be hosted at the Metropolitan Museum of Art on Saturday November 16, 2019 in the Bonnie Sacerdote Classroom, Ruth and Harold D. Uris Center for Education (81st Street entrance) at The Met Fifth Avenue in New York City.

The museum is excited to work with Wikipedia Asian Month for the potential to seed new articles about Asian artworks, artwork types, and art traditions, from any part of Asia. These can be illustrated with thousands of its recently-released images of public domain artworks available for Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons from the museum’s collection spanning 5,000 years of art. The event is an opportunity for Wikimedia communities to engage The Met's diverse Asian collections onsite and remotely. Asia Art Archive will host a sister event in Hong Kong next week.

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Howdy hello! Appreciate the defense of my talk page, could you perhaps add some semi-protection for a few days? I added a request at RFPP, but since you're active and around, thought I'd ask ya, RFPP is sometimes a bit slow. Thanks! Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n! 22:29, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

 Done MusikAnimal talk 22:36, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 47, 2019)

The National Museum is a Czech museum institution intended to systematically establish, prepare, and publicly exhibit natural scientific and historical collections. It was founded in 1818 and is located in Prague.
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I just added semi-protection to the article for the repeated LTA abuse to it. If you were leaving the article unprotected on purpose to leave it as a honey pot, please feel free to undo the protection I applied. Just figured I'd let you know about it just in case. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:59, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

November 20, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Metropolitan New York Library Council in Midtown Manhattan. Is there a project you'd like to share? A question you'd like answered? A Wiki* skill you'd like to learn? Let us know by adding it to the agenda.

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Metropolitan New York Library Council (8th floor) at 599 11th Avenue, Manhattan

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Flag removal request

Hey Musik, would you please remove filemover from my public account User:FlightTime Public, I don't need that on this account. Thanx, - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 17:55, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Sure,  Done MusikAnimal talk 17:57, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
Thank you. Cheers, - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 17:58, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Weird filter bug

Would it be possible to restore the page Pokémon anime in India to my userspace at User:Suffusion of Yellow/Filter bug , if it's not a copvio/attack/etc. I simply can't figure out what's going on with filter log there. See my comments at WP:EF/FP/R#NonsensicalSystem. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 18:43, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

@Suffusion of Yellow: NonsensicalSystem's only successful edit added {{Db-empty}} to an empty page. Would restoring the page help with debugging, considering that wouldn't restore the missing info in AbuseLog? I can still do it, but we'd need to re-add create protection, and avoid inviting all those editors to your userspace (which they may find through their own Special:Contribs).

Also, mind you this offer is sitll on the table :) MusikAnimal talk 18:56, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Still thinking about the offer... I'm also interested in the timestamps. And, if it's a bug, Daimona needs to see it, too. So I guess restore it for now, with full protection, and if it attracts nonsense we can replace it with an API prop=revisions dump or something. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 19:05, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
And, is it possible to tell if Special:AbuseLog/25413673 and Special:AbuseLog/25413674 had the same request ID? They have the same timestamp, but I want to be sure it's really the same edit attempt. I know request IDs are available at https://stream.wikimedia.org/v2/stream/recentchange, but of course I wasn't streaming at the time. Was it recorded somewhere else? Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 19:15, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
@Suffusion of Yellow: I restored just the edits since the last deletion, which I think should suffice. The full history goes back 2 years across hundreds of edits, which is what I was avoiding. I might be able to get request IDs from logstash, I will try. MusikAnimal talk 19:38, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, that's all the history I was looking for. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 19:41, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
Ok, no need to check for the request IDs. Seems like 3 (hist · log) and 346 (hist · log) will both trip if old_size and new_size are 0. Except, null edits aren't supposed to trip the filter at all. So it's not as severe a bug as I thought, but still a bug. I'm going to be away for a few days, but will file a phab when I get back if it's not a duplicate. Thanks! Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 22:36, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
Stop thinking, just do the thing. A trusted admin telling you to run is a sign you need to run. --Izno (talk) 23:08, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
Third! Or, well, fourth? You've been on my shortlist to look into regarding a nomination, but it seems you're not lacking in that regard! From what I've seen you'd be a great benefit to the project with the tools, and should absolutely do it. ~ Amory (utc) 11:20, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Second actually; I'm just encouraging him to run because now is a good time to run if you have someone who wants you to run.... :) --Izno (talk) 21:41, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Google Code-In 2019 is coming - please mentor some documentation tasks!

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I would like to ask you to take part in Google Code-In as a mentor. That would mean to prepare at least one task (it can be documentation related, or something else - the other categories are Code, Design, Quality Assurance and Outreach) for the participants, and help the student to complete it. Please sign up at the contest page and send us your Google account address to google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org, so we can invite you in!

From my own experience, Google Code-In can be fun, you can make several new friends, attract new people to your wiki and make them part of your community.

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This week's article for improvement (week 48, 2019)

The steam hammer is a type of hammer
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Hammer

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High-use templates

Hello, would you be willing to semi-protect Template:IPA vowels/table, Template:IPA pulmonic consonants/table, Template:IPA non-pulmonic consonants/table, and Template:IPA co-articulated consonants/table? They are transcluded through their parent templates, which are semi-protected, and are used in hundreds of pages. I'm asking you since you have semi-protected related templates. Thanks. Nardog (talk) 13:39, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

@Nardog: A bot now automatically protects highly-transcluded templates. I'd almost rather it handle this because it goes by a community-supported threshold of semi'ing after 500 transclusions. The parent templates were protected when we were actively experiencing targeted template vandalism, but thanks to the bot that has largely subsided and this preemptive work seems less critical. Is there other reason to believe these templates are high-risk? MusikAnimal talk 01:56, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, I was just curious because an IP had just made what appears to be a test edit to one of them. Nardog (talk) 16:57, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

A message from Ihuntrocks

There seems to be a circular issue with Jack Posobiec's page involving multiple users (some of whom have been rightly banned for disruptive editing). Per the talk page discussion, there are neutrality issues and WP:Coatrack issues. The circular issue arises when someone tries to change it to a version that fixes the coatrack issues and write it as if it's a biography of a living person. When this happens, the article is reverted to a version which is a coatrack with a lead that appears like a tabloid write-up. When that version reappears, it invariably becomes vandalized. Afterward, either a cleaner version that takes care of the coatrack and BLP issues is restored, or the older version with all of the issues is restored. You can see from the edit log that there is a lot of activity.

What would be the best way to move forward to avoid edit-warring, and to end up with a page which is written with NPOV and BLP policies in mind and is also not a coatrack? I don't want to simply revert it to a functional version such as this one only to have it end up in its current state again minutes later. I thought I'd ask you since you've made edits recently and have been here a while and have made substantial contributions to Wikipedia. I always prefer to defer to those more experienced than I when facing a problem I can't resolve alone. Than you very much for your time. Ihuntrocks (talk) 16:43, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

@Ihuntrocks: Hello! If other patrollers reverted to a non-stable version, it was probably by mistake. Any BLP issues should be addressed without hesitation. Disputed content changes should be made following consensus on the talk page. When in doubt, refer to Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. If edit warring ensues, we can use page protection or report users to the edit warring noticeboard, but I suspect the semi-protection that was added today will guard against most disruption. Hope this helps, MusikAnimal talk 23:11, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for your response. The semi-protection has been applied to preserve the current coatrack/tabloid version, and the talk page is an exercise in status quo stonewalling. It's one of the worst BLP pages I've seen on Wikipedia and it looks unlikely to change. Ihuntrocks (talk) 02:22, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
@Ihuntrocks: You can also raise this issue at the BLP noticeboard to get broader input. If the article is in bad shape, you are not wrong to make fixes or seek assistance, barring edit wars and going against consensus. I'm afraid I don't have time to delve into it. My involvement was solely in patrolling recent changes. The admin who protected the page was surely uninvolved as well, and probably didn't painstakingly seek the correct version. Best, MusikAnimal talk 02:34, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
I suppose I could take it back to the BLP noticeboard. The last time I did that the discussion there was closed by an admin who later became involved and had to remove themself, and the discussion has since been archived. The last time I tried to participate on the talk page, I was accused of being a sock puppet and the aforementioned admin suggested, rather strongly, that I leave the discussion. The page was put under admin-only lock for a while and at that point, it was status-quo stonewalled, despite numerous issues being raised on the talk page by others in addition to myself. I honestly believe there is no way that article will be allowed to improve, but I may give the BLP board another shot. Ihuntrocks (talk) 03:08, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
I have a question on form: Would it be appropriate, in general, to seek help via RfC for a question such as, "Should this article be cleaned up per WP:Coatrack?," or is there a better way to seek help or phrase an RfC? Thank you. Ihuntrocks (talk) 00:41, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

MoreMenu suppression log

Hi MusikAnimal. For MoreMenu, I was wondering if it would be possible to include Special:Log/suppress (Suppression log) in the "User" → "User logs..." menu of MoreMenu in the event that the user in question is an oversighter and the user using MoreMenu is also an oversighter (similar to how it works for CheckUser). I sometimes like to look over my suppression log to make sure I didn't miss anything, and sometimes it could be helpful to look at other oversighters' logs, e.g. if they need a second opinion. If this is a nontrivial task, no worries at all—in any case, I also wanted to thank you for writing such a useful tool. Mz7 (talk) 08:33, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

@Mz7: Sure thing! I've added it to the new version of MoreMenu. This is ready for testing, if you're interested! See meta:MoreMenu/beta for instructions. You will have to install globally, but this the preferred method anyway (just make sure you install the enwiki extension, too). Best, MusikAnimal talk 17:03, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
Wow! That was fast. I installed it globally, and so far it works like a charm! I'll let you know if anything funky pops up, but thanks so much! Mz7 (talk) 21:26, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 11

The Signpost: 29 November 2019

This week's article for improvement (week 49, 2019)

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Coffee cake

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Note about autopatrolled redirects RfC

Hi. Since you participated in the preliminary discussions, I thought I should let you know that I've opened an RfC at Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers/Redirect autopatrol#RfC on autopatrolling redirects. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 01:35, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – December 2019

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2019).

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TAFI schedule page

Hello MusikAnimal: Sorry to bother you, but MusikBot does not appear to be updating the Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement/Schedule page at this time. So, letting you know in hopes that a fix can be worked out. North America1000 06:57, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: There was a problem with archiving nominations at WP:TAFINOM, which I've just fixed. See Special:Diff/927468978. Basically the bot isn't that bright at parsing template syntax, so you must follow the instructions exactly, with the |article= parameter coming before |class=. I could fix the bot, but I hope I don't need to! Also pinging JJMC89 who asked about this almost 3 months ago. Sorry for taking so long to look into it!

That said, I don't see any issue with the Schedule page. Could you elaborate? MusikAnimal talk 18:30, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello again. The last three articles on the Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement/Schedule page were not filled-in by the bot. There are only brackets there. North America1000 01:41, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

MusikBot's TAFI task needs an update

Module:Random TAFI was moved, and now the bot's putting script errors on WT:TAFI#Scheduled weeks - Evad37 [talk] 12:28, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I've recreated the original title as a redirect (Module:Random TAFI), hopefully that will help --DannyS712 (talk) 12:40, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
Looks like I screwed up here by assuming that Module:Random TAFI wasn't used by anything given that it had no transclusions. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:34, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, all. The bot was using {{TAFI scheduled selection}} which has now been fixed to use the right module. @Northamerica1000: I manually added selections for the missing weeks. I think we're all set now. @Pppery: No worries. In general we should maybe do a search within the template/WP namespaces to see if anything is invoking modules we're about to move or delete. MusikAnimal talk 22:35, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
I usually try to do that, but I must have forgotten in this case, both when I moved the module recently and when I TfDed it a year or so ago. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:23, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
Thanks very much for the updating, which is greatly appreciated! North America1000 23:41, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 50, 2019)

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Brain Electrical Oscillation Signature Profiling

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Apparently incorrect blocking of a user (from DemonDays64)

You recently blocked the user THE WICKIPEDIA COMMUNITY IS EXPECTED THAT CREDINKIYA IS HERE AND THEYRE NOT SOCKPUPS! for being a "Vandalism-only account". However, looking at their few contributions, they only seem to be positive, anti-vandalism edits. In one case, they reverted vandalism/bad good-faith editing, but you reverted it back.

Why was this user banned? Was this mistaken?

DemonDays64 (talk) 04:34, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

It should be pretty obvious that they're a blocked sockpuppet. I blocked one of their other manifestations. They like to play at vandal-fighting, but blocked is blocked. Acroterion (talk) 04:37, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
Globally blocked, no less [32]. Acroterion (talk) 04:52, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
@DemonDays64: I read the image change backwards, thinking they added the external URL. Sorry about that, and thanks for reverting me! I did notice the other edit was constructive, but the username says everything. Yes, the block was intentional :) WP:VOA indeed isn't accurate, I almost corrected it but figured it didn't really matter. I've updated it now, though. Best, MusikAnimal talk 04:52, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
@MusikAnimal: ok, cool! BTW, on an unrelated note: I noticed that, at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/AutoWikiBrowser#DemonDays64, your bot posted a note saying "already done" to my request to get bot power for my bot; I know that your bot doesn't have a way to distinguish between that and requests for general AWB permissions, but I think it may be something good to take up with whoever manages the approval system for AWB. Thanks! DemonDays64 (talk) 04:59, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
@DemonDays64: I'm not sure what you're suggesting, but typically the bot approver will grant AWB access during the BRFA (see the notice at the top of WP:PERM/AWB). I see your bot was added to the CheckPage on December 4. MusikAnimal talk 05:16, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
@MusikAnimal: now that I think about it, I don't know what I was trying to say :o Anyway, do you think you could please move my bot from the normal users list to the bots list? I realized that I can't use JWB for bot editing with it just on the normal list. Thanks! DemonDays64 (talk) 05:26, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
@DemonDays64:  Done I'm guessing you were added there since your bot didn't have the bot flag yet. Maybe. I'm not sure how it works! Happy editing, MusikAnimal talk 05:57, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

AWB Checkpage Format

Somewhat of a heads up... I've been working on moving the AWB checkpage format to JSON (I think I wrote most of the code quite a while ago now), and it mostly works Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPageJSON, but isn't in use by AWB just yet...

At some point, are you able to update MusikBot II to work with that page instead? I suspect... It'll make your code quite a bit simpler, not having to parse out javascript, instead just reading/writing JSON...

Thanks!

Reedy (talk) 13:11, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

@Reedy: Yes indeed! I think JSON makes much more sense, and the bot can easily accommodate. I'll need a bit of a heads up, though. I will be on wikibreak from December 24 through January 10 and won't be able to help during this time. The bot runs just once a week, so I'll also need a Sunday to make sure it works on its own. Worse comes to worse, I think we'll be fine without it for a few weeks... so I suppose don't wait on me :) Regards, MusikAnimal talk 17:48, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 51, 2019)

A ballet leap performed with modern, non-classical form in a contemporary ballet
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MusikBot Help

Is it possible to get MusikBot help at Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Redirect whitelist? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:38, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

@Barkeep49: It would be a bit of work to adapt to that page, and not within the PERM ecosystem. If you just need archiving, I recommend ClueBot III. I doubt you'll regularly get that many requests after the initial flood, so something like this might be suitable:
{{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis
|age=1000000 <!-- really big number to prevent archiving before request was closed -->
|archiveprefix=Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Redirect whitelist/Archive
|format=Y %%i
|maxarchsize=100000
|archivenow=<nowiki>{{Done}},{{done}},{{Not done}},{{not done}}</nowiki>
}}
MusikAnimal talk 04:24, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
Understood. I had thought about doing a traditional archive and then stepped back because of the interplay with done and backlog that your bot gives but will again explore. Thanks and best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:44, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

00:16, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

December 18, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Metropolitan New York Library Council in Midtown Manhattan. Is there a project you'd like to share? A question you'd like answered? A Wiki* skill you'd like to learn? Let us know by adding it to the agenda.

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Metropolitan New York Library Council (8th floor) at 599 11th Avenue, Manhattan

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Cheers

Damon Runyon's short story "Dancing Dan's Christmas" is a fun read if you have the time. Right from the start it extols the virtues of the hot Tom and Jerry

This hot Tom and Jerry is an old-time drink that is once used by one and all in this country to celebrate Christmas with, and in fact it is once so popular that many people think Christmas is invented only to furnish an excuse for hot Tom and Jerry, although of course this is by no means true.

No matter what concoction is your favorite to imbibe during this festive season I would like to toast you with it and to thank you for all your work here at the 'pedia this past year. Best wishes for your 2020 as well MA. MarnetteD|Talk 20:58, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you MarnetteD, and same to you! :) MusikAnimal talk 05:33, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
You are welcome and thanks back atcha for the good wishes. MarnetteD|Talk 06:24, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

More MoreMenu thanks

Hi, I just wanted to thank you again for getting MoreMenu to work on IE for me. Also, thanks for all the effort you put in to update the gadget. I really like that it's customizable and I was especially glad to see how Watch and Unwatch work; as you probably know, on the old dropdown menus, these had for a lonnnng time turned into annoying two-step processes. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 09:45, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Glad you're enjoying it! Thank you :) MusikAnimal talk 16:58, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Cheers

Merry Christmas, MusikAnimal!
Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity. Onel5969 TT me 11:12, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter December 2019

A graph showing the number of articles in the page curation feed from 12/21/18 - 12/20/19

Reviewer of the Year

This year's Reviewer of the Year is Rosguill. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.

Special commendation again goes to Onel5969 who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to Boleyn and JTtheOG who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.

Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.

Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.

Top 10 Reviewers over the last 365 days
Rank Username Num reviews Log
1 Rosguill (talk) 47,395 Patrol Page Curation
2 Onel5969 (talk) 41,883 Patrol Page Curation
3 JTtheOG (talk) 11,493 Patrol Page Curation
4 Arthistorian1977 (talk) 5,562 Patrol Page Curation
5 DannyS712 (talk) 4,866 Patrol Page Curation
6 CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk) 3,995 Patrol Page Curation
7 DragonflySixtyseven (talk) 3,812 Patrol Page Curation
8 Boleyn (talk) 3,655 Patrol Page Curation
9 Ymblanter (talk) 3,553 Patrol Page Curation
10 Cwmhiraeth (talk) 3,522 Patrol Page Curation

(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

Redirect autopatrol

A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by DannyS712 bot III.

Source Guide Discussion

Set to launch early in the new year is our first New Page Patrol Source Guide discussion. These discussions are designed to solicit input on sources in places and topic areas that might otherwise be harder for reviewers to evaluate. The hope is that this will allow us to improve the accuracy of our patrols for articles using these sources (and/or give us places to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion). Please watch the New Page Patrol talk page for more information.

This month's refresher course

While New Page Reviewers are an experienced set of editors, we all benefit from an occasional review. This month consider refreshing yourself on Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features). Also consider how we can take the time for quality in this area. For instance, sources to verify human settlements, which are presumed notable, can often be found in seconds. This lets us avoid the (ugly) 'Needs more refs' tag.

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MusikBot II GeonoticeSync

Hi MusikAnimal. The GeonoticeSync task appears to not be syncing since December 9–13. — JJMC89(T·C) 07:46, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

@JJMC89: Thanks for letting me know! It looks like the cron jobs got stuck when there was Toolforge maintenance on the 12th. I killed them and it just started back up successfully, so we should be good now :) Best, MusikAnimal talk 17:04, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Hello, MusikAnimal! Thank you for your work to maintain and improve Wikipedia! Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 23:20, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

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A message from Kipala

Hi I am curious about some stats. I check siteviews for swwiki , https://tools.wmflabs.org/siteviews/?platform=all-access&source=pageviews&agent=user&range=latest-20&sites=sw.wikipedia.org

I find some days where views top 100,000. I am curious to see what made this high number. I check several dates, eg 15/02/2019 here> https://tools.wmflabs.org/topviews/?project=sw.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&date=2019-02-15&excludes=.

This day looks in topviews absolutely average, no articles drawing lots of views. Where does the extraordinary pageview total come from? Appreciate help to understand. Kipala (talk) 19:03, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

@Kipala: See https://tools.wmflabs.org/siteviews/faq/#anomaly. It looks like the spike is only for desktop and not mobile. Depending on what is normal for your wiki, this might suggest bot-inflated pageviews (I suppose on random articles, rather than just one). Right now this is an unfortunately common issue, but as I understand it the Analytics team is close to figuring out a long-term solution. Hope this helps, MusikAnimal talk 19:41, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas MusikAnimal

Hi MusikAnimal, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas
and a very happy and prosperous New Year,
Thanks for all your contributions to the 'pedia this past year,
   –Davey2010talk 00:51, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, happy holidays to you as well. MusikAnimal talk 20:05, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Userviews

Hi MusikAnimal, and Merry Christmas. There is a problem with the "Userviews" tool. What's wrong? Verdelunar (talk) 17:36, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Happy holidays to you as well! I noticed a lot of Toolforge went down earlier, I guess Userviews fell victim to whatever the problem was. It should be up and running now. Best, MusikAnimal talk 20:05, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 52, 2019)

When cooking with alcohol to prepare a flambé, alcohol is ignited
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Cooking with alcohol

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20:06, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

A Joyous Yuletide to you!

Christmas card by Louis Prang, showing a group of anthropomorphized frogs parading with banner and band.
Carole of the Bells by Pentatonix


Hello MusikAnimal, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2020.
Happy editing,
7&6=thirteen () 19:41, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

A message from Schrauber5

Hello, I'm participated to the page Brachydaktylie. It has about 180 paheviews a day. At 11th of December it were 2500. How can this be explaned? Was this a machine? https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=de.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2019-12-02&end=2019-12-22&pages=Brachydaktylie Schrauber5 (talk) 21:12, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

@Schrauber5: See the FAQ. Looking at mobile vs desktop, it would seem the traffic is not genuine. MusikAnimal talk 22:12, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for this information Schrauber5 (talk) 16:43, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 27 December 2019

Happy New Year MusikAnimal!

Happy New Year!
Hello MusikAnimal:
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve the encyclopedia for Wikipedia's readers, and have a happy and enjoyable New Year! Cheers, Donner60 (talk) 23:34, 27 December 2019 (UTC)



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This week's article for improvement (week 1, 2020)

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List of pasta

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YGM

Just in case: I've sent you an email from my (-revi) usual email address. Gisado (talk) 14:52, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

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                                                 Happy holidays

Happy New Year!
MusikAnimal,
Have a great 2020 and thanks for your continued contributions to Wikipedia.


   – 2020 is a leap yearnews article.
   – Background color is Classic Blue (#0F4C81), Pantone's 2020 Color of the year

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North America1000 20:56, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2019).

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This week's article for improvement (week 2, 2020)

The pilot in command of an aircraft is the person aboard who is ultimately responsible for its operation and safety during flight. This would be the captain in a typical two- or three-pilot aircrew, or "pilot" if there is only one certificated and qualified pilot at the controls of an aircraft.
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Captain

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This week's article for improvement (week 3, 2020)

Various computer hardware components within a desktop computer
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:40, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

"RangeContribs" for talk pages

I'm curious if there is a tool or if (volunteer) you might be interested in it: some sort of way to see/query a specific IPv6 /64 range (or arbitrary, or IPv4, or...) to see what contributions have been made to user talk pages, so that I can search for previous warnings. The case is mostly motivated by a /64 lookup. Thoughts? --Izno (talk) 15:28, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps see WP:VPT#IPv6 individual and /64 block logs as an example of people having similar thoughts entirely separately, where I left a note about this topic. :) --Izno (talk) 16:07, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
There isn't a simple way to query for revisions to talk pages of IPs within a range, unfortunately. The only IP range-friendly thing we have is for revisions made by those IPs, which are stored in the ip_changes table. See phab:T146628 in regards to the block log stuff.

That said, you could conceivably make a tool that does prefix searches (e.g. talk pages like 192.168.1.*), which might be better than nothing. MusikAnimal talk 17:22, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Actually using special:search seems like a reasonable workaround for the /64 case (just to see pages that have been created). Is that a reasonable Twinkle or possibly MoreMenu add? --Izno (talk) 17:51, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
@Izno: If you just want page titles, then I guess Special:PrefixIndex would do? I don't know how Twinkle or MoreMenu would know what prefix to use, though. It would depend on how big of a range you're trying to view. At any rate, note you can add links to MoreMenu as desired (requires some JavaScript knowledge), see meta:MoreMenu#Customization. MusikAnimal talk 20:55, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, you can "search" prefixes with Special:Search also. But cool, that works for me now. --Izno (talk) 21:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
January 22, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Metropolitan New York Library Council in Midtown Manhattan. Is there a project you'd like to share? A question you'd like answered? A Wiki* skill you'd like to learn? Let us know by adding it to the agenda.

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Metropolitan New York Library Council (8th floor) at 599 11th Avenue, Manhattan

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Wikimedia New York City Team 20:07, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

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A prayer meeting and hymn singing
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Prayer meeting

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Jan 25, 12:30pm: Met 'Understanding America' Edit-a-thon @ Metropolitan Museum of Art

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for the Met 'Understanding America' Edit-a-thon @ Metropolitan Museum of Art on the Upper East Side.

Together, we'll expand Wikipedia articles on American history and art, and the understanding that all communities bring to American culture, as reflected in the Met collection up until ca. 1900.

With refreshments, and there will be a wiki-cake!

Open to everyone at all levels of experience, wiki instructional workshop and one-on-one support will be provided.

12:30pm - 4:30 pm at Uris Center for Education, Metropolitan Museum of Art (81st Street entrance) at 1000 Fifth Avenue, Manhattan
(note this is just south of the main entrance)
Galleries will be open this evening until 9 pm, and some wiki-visitors may wish to take this opportunity to see exhibits together after the formal event.

Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends, colleagues and students! --Wikimedia New York City Team 21:01, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

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Should this statement be removed Please sign and date your entries by inserting ~~~~ at the end. I'm not sure, but doesn't {{Talk header preload/preload}} already automatically add the tides to the end of the thread ? Just wondering. - FlightTime (open channel) 19:11, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Yes but it lets them know it's intentional, I suppose. I might have added that after I noticed people were removing the signature syntax. I don't remember. I definitely have seen some new users sign twice, but twice is better than none :) MusikAnimal talk 23:04, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
OK, I understand. Thanx, - FlightTime (open channel) 23:07, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Farrand - links to this page

I understand you are working on a fix for this problem of wrong links to this page. It shows presently 17 links to the article I created, however it actually lists them as a Farrand disambiguation page of 4 items. Since you are working to solve this I will check on it later, that probably by THEN will have 20 items and articles that will link to the article I created on Farrand & Votey Organ Company.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:00, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

@Doug Coldwell: The fix has been deployed, and I'm seeing 20 incoming links for that article [46]. Let me know if anything else is off. Best, MusikAnimal talk 02:47, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks! It's working properly now. I knew it would take someone with technical skills like yourself to fix it.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:49, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

userRightsManager - redirect autopatrol

Hi. Can I suggest an addition to User:MusikAnimal/userRightsManager.js relating to Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Redirect whitelist? Once a user is autopatrolled, they no longer need to be listed, and the script can automatically remove the user. Example (untested) code below. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 20:27, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Call the function:

// silently add user to MMS list
if (permission === 'New page reviewer') addToMMSList();
// silently remove from redirect whitelist
else if (permission === 'Autopatrolled') updateWhiteList();

Add the function: (note that line numbers reflect 2 lines added above)

		add: 'User talk:' + userName
	});
}

function updateWhiteList() {
	api.edit( 'Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Redirect whitelist', function ( revision ) {
		var newContent = revision.content.replace( '* {{user2|' + userName + '}}\n', '' );
		return {
			text: newContent,
			summary: 'Remove ' + userName + ', now autopatrolled' + tagLine,
			minor: true
		};
	});
}
I think this is a fantastic idea! I hope to get to this either today or early next week. Thanks, MusikAnimal talk 16:01, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
@DannyS712:  Done! I tested this on testwiki and it worked. Thanks again for the suggestion, MusikAnimal talk 00:47, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 5, 2020)

The Serengeti ecosystem is a geographical region located in northern Tanzania, Africa. It spans approximately 30,000 km2 (12,000 sq mi), and hosts the second largest terrestrial mammal migration in the world. Pictured is a leopard in a tree in the Serengeti.
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A message from Aram

Hello MusikAnimal! First, Congratulations! English Wikipedia reached 6,000,000 articles! Now, I want to know about Dark Mode (mw:Extension:DarkMode). Why this feature is not available yet? Please tell me more about adding it. Thank you! ⇒ AramTalk 13:18, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

@Aram: While it works, that extension is basically a hack. There are an infinite number of cases where certain things are shown as "dark" when they shouldn't, and vice versa. This is due to unpredictability of wikitext and how communities prefer to style page elements. After some time, it was decided that we shouldn't deploy this as it is currently implemented. As I understand it, the design team is working on a more robust, long-term solution. I'm not certain about details. (disclaimer that this comment wasn't vetted by WMF :) MusikAnimal talk 05:42, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for your replying! However, Our eyes are tired from this bright skin and change to red soon. We all waiting for that feature (developed by anyone). All websites are added it except of the most visited one (Wikipedia). Thank you again! ⇒ AramTalk 10:32, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2020).

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  • Following a request for comment, partial blocks are now enabled on the English Wikipedia. This functionality allows administrators to block users from editing specific pages or namespaces rather than the entire site. A draft policy is being workshopped at Wikipedia:Partial blocks.
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The The Dapper Dans are a barbershop quartet that performs at Disneyland in Anaheim, California.
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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 12

Revision deletion request

A user recently put a racial slur on my talk page. It was reverted, but I would like the single revision deleted for good under the premise of it really shouldn't be able to be found anywhere. Thanks, Willsome429 (say hey or see my edits!) 16:15, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

 Done Removed under RD2. Best, MusikAnimal talk 17:07, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

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The Pyramid Texts are the oldest known corpus of ancient Egyptian religious texts dating to the Old Kingdom.
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Whenever I press cancel, it rollbacks the edit. Is there something wrong with the script. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 14:39, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

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Check your emails. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 08:09, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer newsletter February 2020

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Source Guide Discussion

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The metric length of one kilometre is equivalent to the imperial measurement of 0.62137 miles.
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Please unprotect WP:Sandbox2

Please unprotect WP:Sandbox2 so I can tag it as WP:G2. Thanks! PorkchopGMX (talk with me - what i've done) 13:47, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Deleted. I think this was created just for demonstration purposes and we forgot to delete it. Thanks for letting me know, MusikAnimal talk 16:51, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

FYI: Your 2014 edit to this template caused it to call {{lc}} which I don't think is what you wanted. I think you meant to use the lc: magic word. Back in 2014, what you did may have worked, but today it doesn't, so I fixed it. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 21:19, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

No I doubt it worked in 2014 either, just a careless mistake! Much like sometimes people ping with {{User:Foo}} when they meant to use a pipe. Thanks for noticing and fixing it! MusikAnimal talk 15:34, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Well, I noticed it because pages that used it wound "calling" some weird template, and there were enough of them that the the weird non-existent template wound up in Special:WantedTemplates with a significant number of transclusions. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 15:50, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

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Discussion on the Draft namrespace

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1000 filters ought to be enough for anyone

Hello, MA. I think MusikBot is undercounting active filters. User:MusikBot/FilterMonitor/Count says there are 198 active filters, but (await $.get("https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=abusefilters&abfshow=enabled&abflimit=500&format=json")).query.abusefilters.length says there are 224. Changes from filters >= 1000 aren't being reported. Perhaps there's a hard-coded limit somewhere? Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 20:32, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Fixed! Indeed, it was only fetching up to 1000 filters from the API. I suppose this means the monitoring of filter changes was only happening to the first 1000, too... A major bug! Thanks for discovering this! The bot really should be using the database, but I suppose there's no rush as it'll be a while before we have over 5000 filters. MusikAnimal talk 15:53, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

A message from TheBirdsShedTears

MusikBot is indeed a genius bot. He Changed Category:Year of birth missing to Category:Year of birth missing (living people). I appreciate for its work. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 09:07, 27 February 2020 (UTC) TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 09:07, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Why thank you. It's just looking for pages in Category:Living people then changing other categories; nothing too clever :) MusikAnimal talk 16:01, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 13

The Signpost: 1 March 2020

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A company is a legal entity made up of an association of people, be they natural, legal, or a mixture of both, for carrying on a commercial or industrial enterprise.
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Congrats and cakes

Have some frog cakes, Mr Steward!

A steward now, I see! Excellent! You'll be great. Have some frog cakes! Bishonen | tålk 12:20, 2 March 2020 (UTC).

Thank you! :) MusikAnimal talk 17:06, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Eat Lipstick, a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

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Archiving discussion(s) on another project

Hello MusikAnimal, Can you help us for archiving discussion(s) by using User:MusikBot on our project (ckbwiki)? Or please suggest a bot to me. I want to talk with the bot's author. Thanks! ⇒ AramTalk 19:43, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

@Aram: What kind of pages are you trying to archive? The standard archiving bot for discussions is mw:Manual:Pywikibot/archivebot.py. You could try reaching out to the operator of one of the many bots that use this library, such as Whym who operates meta:User:ArchiverBot. Or if you have someone decent at Python they could set up their own bot. MusikBot does more specialized archiving such as at WP:PERM at WP:TAFINOM and can't be used for general purpose. Hope this helps, MusikAnimal talk 21:05, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
This might be my fault. I didn't investigate all the bots in that category before I made that recommendation. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 21:35, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
No worries! That was a perfectly sane recommendation. MusikAnimal talk 22:05, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
It's OK! Especially, I want to archive village pump old discussions. ⇒ AramTalk 15:39, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

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September 25, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon NYC

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Can you undo a mistake by MusikBot II?

Actually, it was my mistake that was compounded by MusikBot II. In {{Commons and category}}, I mistakenly invoked Module:Commons link/sandbox instead of Module:Commons link. I corrected this mistake, but in the meanwhile, MusikBot II indefinitely protected Module:Commons link/sandbox, allowing only confirmed users. Sandboxes should be editable by everyone, right?

Could you undo the protection of Module:Commons link/sandbox? Sorry for the trouble! — hike395 (talk) 21:15, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done MusikAnimal talk 21:59, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Copyvio Tool doesn't work

Hello MusikAnimal. The tool copyvios doesn't work, and you name is in the list s maintenance people. Could you check it? Thanks a lot in advance. --Nachosan (talk) 23:51, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

See phab:T245426. You might seem persistent downtime for a while, I'm afraid. MusikAnimal talk 16:06, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Globally locked

Hi. Can you please globally lock 93.143.66.255 (talk · contribs)? This self-confessing Muslim Bosnian has just threatened to kill me on my IDwiki talk page. Thanks. Flix11 (talk) 02:36, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done MusikAnimal talk 03:01, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Redaction

Hi. Can you redact all the user talk page attacks committed by Dead instead (talk · contribs), including mine? This vandal called me stupid for fighting against him. And please also redact Special:Diff/947400433 when the IP above called me ghetto. Thanks. Flix11 (talk) 03:25, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

@Flix11: Perhaps I'm missing something, but in my opinion these don't quite meet the criteria for redaction. I suppose RD3 could apply, marginally. Frankly these types of juvenile verbal attacks are something to expect when fighting vandalism. I would take them with a grain of salt, and just revert and ignore, reporting to AIV as necessary. I certainly have been on the receiving end of much worse! It goes in one ear and out the other. If you still feel the edits should be redacted, you can ask another admin, or on IRC at #wikipedia-en-revdel connect (which is usually quicker). Kind regards, MusikAnimal talk 04:12, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

The Signpost: 29 March 2020

Map is of Africa, not Saint Petersburg

At Talk:Ozerki_(Historic_district_in_Saint_Petersburg)#Map is of Africa, not Saint Petersburg I have noted a problem that it was suggested at Wiktionary you may be able to fix, which would be good. Are you in fact able to help? 15:03, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

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Precious anniversary

Precious
Six years!

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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 14

Per above

Thanks for the cleanup, but I feel that this is called for:


Smash!

You've been squished by a whale!
Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something really silly.

for your editing of multiple very highly used modules and templates by accident after importing via upload. I guess April fools is as good a time as any? --DannyS712 (talk) 06:39, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Haha! Brilliant, I'll change my excuse to being an April Fools joke! Thanks for the chuckle. This was a huge mistake that's almost WP:STOCKS worthy. MusikAnimal talk 06:44, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
@MusikAnimal: I only noticed it because it appeared as import/upload on my global watchlist and I knew you didn't have the local rights - were any errors visible to anyone? If no one noticed before it was over, then that may not be warranted, but lets wait and see if anyone starts to complain (then again, Wikipedia:Global rights policy#Stewards says Stewards should not use their global rights to perform tasks that could be performed by local users and the imports and associated chaos could have been done by one of our two local importers; per Wikipedia:Global rights policy#Removal of rights - A user who abuses their global rights by knowingly or recklessly using their global rights on the English Wikipedia in contravention of this policy should be reported to meta:Stewards' noticeboard or #wikimedia-stewards immediately, where the stewards will determine whether an emergency removal of tools is required. - lets see if anyone calls for emergency destewardship before deciding. Could be considered reckless...) --DannyS712 (talk) 06:50, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
I was worried my account was going to get locked! I have not heard any reports of disruption yet... I've notified people on a few channels on IRC. It probably helps that less traffic is seen at this hour. At any rate I hope it's clear I did not intend to use my global rights at all! This was actually for an external wiki, where I was importing XML dumps. MusikAnimal talk 06:58, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2020).

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  • There is an ongoing request for comment to streamline the source deprecation and blacklisting process.

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  • The WMF has begun a pilot report of the pages most visited through various social media platforms to help with anti-vandalism and anti-disinformation efforts. The report is updated daily and will be available through the end of May.

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Using steward access?

Hi. I saw you just import uploaded a number of revisions (that appear to have been originally from enwiki???). From what I can see, you were only able to do that because of your global rights as a steward - is this use of steward rights allowed? Just wondering --DannyS712 (talk) 06:18, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

This has been a grave mistake... :( I was setting up a new wiki, had Special:Import on it and Special:Export on enwiki. At some point the two got mixed... trying to fix what I broke (doesn't seem like much?). Account is not compromised! Sorry. MusikAnimal talk 06:20, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Not broken from what I can tell, but it makes the page history really confusing to look at. Ideally, I would suggest deletion and selective undeletion, but since a lot of the templates are very highly used would it be possible to rev-del the entire revision (text/user/comment) to that it isn't confusing to others? Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 06:24, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict) MusikAnimal, the biggest impact might have been from Module:Yesno losing support for on and off. —⁠andrybak (talk) 06:26, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Also Template:Tl --DannyS712 (talk) 06:33, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
@Andrybak and DannyS712: Okay does all look okay to you now? I didn't notice any visual problems, but there were some changes that seemed large! The biggest problem here I think is how highly transcluded these templates were... probably putting a strain on the job queue right now :( This was incidental because, of course, the one template you want to import is the one that uses a bajillion templates that need to be imported, too. I hope the effects weren't any more far-reaching that what I noticed, which was nothing. I'm very sorry for this mistake; I'm sure others will be by soon to trout me! And rightfully so. MusikAnimal talk 06:39, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
@MusikAnimal: maybe MediaWiki:importtext should have a LARGE WARNING that stewards may be using it accidentally? The only two users with local rights to import by upload are Graham87 and Xaosflux... just a thought. Will post if I see anything out of the ordinary --DannyS712 (talk) 06:44, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
I wouldn't oppose, but I don't think we need to spend too much time trying to prevent my mistakes. Better, I'll just be more attentive... maybe even write a script to prevent me from accessing these pages entirely :) This is what I get for trying to start my own wiki! MusikAnimal talk 06:48, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
@DannyS712: The answer to your original question is an unambiguous no!. * Pppery * it has begun... 13:42, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

About WMFLabs' Topviews tool

Hello, my name is Rebestalic

I have come to ask about the statistics churner at https://tools.wmflabs.org/topviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org; I believe you created it (along with two friends, how awesome)

Is there a way to find weekly results rather than daily or monthly results? If so, that would make life so much easier when trying to gather data for Top 25 Reports as I wouldn't need to bother more experienced Top 25 authors to help

Now, after reading a bit of your user page (I hope that doesn't make me seem like a stalker), I see you're from NYC--well, that's fantastic because Andrew Cuomo showed up on last week's Top 25 😂

Thank you (and keep loving music because you're not alone), Rebestalic[dubious—discuss] 05:20, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

@Rebestalic: No weekly granularity as of right now, see phab:T133575. I believe Jtmorgan is working on reviving the old WP:5000 weekly report (except limited to 1,000 results), so perhaps we'll soon have a interim solution.

You are no stalker by reading my userpage, that's why it's there :) Indeed, I am a proud New Yorker. Neat to see my governor in the Top 25, though given current events this doesn't surprise me! Best, MusikAnimal talk 19:51, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

@MusikAnimal:, thank you for your reply! And don't forget, as Governor Cuomo says, stay safe because unfortunately "You're not Superman, and you're not Superwoman"
What a guy haha Rebestalic[dubious—discuss] 00:06, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
MusicAnimal, Rebestalic This is done! This daily report that calculates the cumulative weekly pageviews for all articles that appeared among the top 1000 most-viewed articles on any day within the past week. It is intended as a replacement for the Top 5000 report, which is down as of April 1 2020. It will update daily at around 15:00 UTC. This report makes a few assumptions that vastly simplify the process of calculating weekly views. As a result, it may miss a few articles that never quite made it into a daily top 1000 list, but nevertheless had a consistently high-ish volume of views over a 7 day period. However, this limitation will probably only impact the 'tail' of the report; you can trust that the ranking and the total weekly counts for the vast majority of the articles listed in the report are representative. Let me know if you have questions or suggestions! Cheers, J-Mo 00:01, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Thank you very much Jtmorgan! I see you are creator of HostBot, let there be happiness and prosperity imbued unto you. And what a time to post on someone's talk page, 00:01 UTC!!! Thank you MusikAnimal as well for getting his attention haha Rebestalic[dubious—discuss] 00:15, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Question about MusikBot & permissions

Hello, MusikAnimal,

I have a question for you about MusikBot. I know there is Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Approved/March 2020 for a record of editors who have received permissions they have requested. Is there a similar list for editors whose requests have been denied? I know that if an editor has requested rights repeatedly, MusikBot posts that fact but I can't find a location where it would get the information, I can't find any archived requests that have been denied or any lists that keep track of this. If this information exists somewhere, could you tell me where to look? Much appreciated! Liz Read! Talk! 01:24, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

@Liz: Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Denied :) You can also search all archives using the search bar at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Archive. Hope all is well, friend MusikAnimal talk 02:14, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Well, that looks like it is pretty obvious! This was exactly what I was looking for and I think I will categorize those pages so they are easier to find. Thank you very much for pointing it out to me, MusikAnimal. Liz Read! Talk! 17:09, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Regarding that LTA

I think you may want to consider revoking talk page access here?: [74]? Patient Zerotalk 18:44, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Hang on, whoops, just realised you're not the blocking admin, pinging Ymblanter. Patient Zerotalk 18:45, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Once globally locked they can't edit anywhere, so no need. MusikAnimal talk 18:57, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Ah, yes, I forgot about that - it's been a while. Hope all is well? Best, Patient Zerotalk 19:05, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Maathai Supermarkets‎

Hi - MusikBot's recent edit at Maathai Supermarkets‎ was "removing as page is not edit-protected" - but the log shows it as being protected until 2 May 2020 - I'm sure there is some explanation?? - Arjayay (talk) 17:52, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

@Arjayay: The article is only under move protection. I think {{pp-protected}} by itself suggests edit protection, so you'd need to add |action=move if you wanted the correct icon, or just use {{pp-move}}. MusikAnimal talk 19:08, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
I'm guessing Materialscientist meant to add edit protection, since you already have to be confirmed to move pages. MusikAnimal talk 19:12, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Uma medalha para si!

A medalha de diligência
Thanks for "https://xtools.wmflabs.org/" Dr. LooTalk to me 03:43, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
Obrigado! MusikAnimal talk 21:26, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

2020 coronavirus pandemic in New York City

Hey, long time no see. Thanks for adding the graphs and tables to the article. They're very useful. epicgenius (talk) 16:13, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Indeed! I'm happy to be back working on content :) I missed you all. The charts don't look great, but at least we have some visualization. I'd like to make them interactive but for some reason the templates don't support this, even though it is possible. I need find out why this is, or propose the change (since it's a rather large change). Anyway hope all is well in your neck of the woods. Cheers, MusikAnimal talk 00:09, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
While we're on this topic, an anonymous user removed the graphs as "grossly inaccurate". I'd tend to agree on a first glance, but there must've been new data uploaded in the last couple days. If you want, I'd be happy to help out. epicgenius (talk) 16:47, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. I chimed in on the talk page, let's keep continue discussing there. MusikAnimal talk 22:07, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 15, 2020)

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The Sims (video game)

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19:02, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

New NodeJS bot framework

Hi, I thought might be interested in knowing that I created a new bot framework in Node.js - see mwn. Mostly written on the MWBot as a foundation with some enhancements copied from mw.Api, added some original improvements like automated retry on maxlag and expired token errors, and finally bundled in my own libApi.js functions. Your contributions would be welcome! See issues for a list of open tasks if you like. SD0001 (talk) 20:06, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

PS: just remembered you're from New York. Being particularly badly-hit, this indeed must be difficult time for you folks. Even my brother is in NYC holed up all alone in a studio apartment all day. Stay safe. SD0001 (talk) 20:32, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Sweet! I do have a few Node.js bots. I will definitely give this a try when I get around to it. And many thanks for your kind wishes. Having direct sunlight or a balcony would be nice but I'm getting by just fine cooped up at home. I have my health and plenty of beer to drink :) MusikAnimal talk 21:53, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

A message from Polla ta deina

Dear MusikAnimal,

I saw your name in the list of Wikipedia administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles. Both your Wikipedia name and your user page suggest that you will be open to my request to view a deleted article on a musician. The subject of the article was Menno van Delft and his name was also the title of the article.

I understand you need a reason for my request. Basically it is that I am astounded that the article has disappeared and that I can see no reason for this disappearance. The Dutch, German, Polish and Russian articles on him seem perfectly fine to me and they are still there. My personal interest, apart from the fact that I am a music buff, is that I am the author of the picture that was used in the article (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Menno_van_Delft_2019.jpg) (it also is used in the Dutch and Polish articles) and that I hate to see my work disappear without knowing the reason why.

I hope you can help me. If I can, I am prefectly willing to help restore the article. But as I am not its original author, I don’t know if I’ll be up to the task. I can only promise I’ll try. Polla ta deina (talk) 15:30, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Polla ta deina (talk) 15:30, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

@Polla ta deina: I'm happy to help, but I'm afraid I can't find the article! Menno van Delft has no deletion history. Perhaps it was under a different title? MusikAnimal talk 21:55, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 16, 2020)

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Anna Lindh

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Editing news 2020 #1 – Discussion tools

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Screenshot showing what the Reply tool looks like
This early version of the Reply tool automatically signs and indents comments.

The Editing team has been working on the talk pages project. The goal of the talk pages project is to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily. This project is the result of the Talk pages consultation 2019.

Reply tool improved with edit tool buttons
In a future update, the team plans to test a tool for easily linking to another user's name, a rich-text editing option, and other tools.

The team is building a new tool for replying to comments now. This early version can sign and indent comments automatically. Please test the new Reply tool.

  • On 31 March 2020, the new reply tool was offered as a Beta Feature editors at four Wikipedias: Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian. If your community also wants early access to the new tool, contact User:Whatamidoing (WMF).
  • The team is planning some upcoming changes. Please review the proposed design and share your thoughts on the talk page. The team will test features such as:
    • an easy way to mention another editor ("pinging"),
    • a rich-text visual editing option, and
    • other features identified through user testing or recommended by editors.

To hear more about Editing Team updates, please add your name to the "Get involved" section of the project page. You can also watch these pages: the main project page, Updates, Replying, and User testing.

PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 15:45, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

A message from User:Jcoolbro

You appear to be a very trusted and experienced user. I think you would make a great candidate for beurocrat! You should try! Jcoolbro (talk) 13:22, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

I don't think I want anymore hats, but thank you :) MusikAnimal talk 21:19, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Desktop improvements prototype

Hello, MusikAnimal!

Thanks for taking the time to participate in the user feedback round for our desktop improvements prototype. This feedback is super valuable to us and is currently being used to determine our next steps. We have published a report gathering the main takeaways from the feedback and highlighting the changes we’ll make based on this feedback. Please take a look and give us your thoughts on the talk page of the report. To learn more about the project overall and the other features we’re planning on building in the future, check out the main project page.

SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 22:43, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Help with edit filters

Hello, MusikAnimal! :)

Can you help me a bit with some filters? I'm an interface and normal admin at SqQuote and SqWiki and I'm trying to adjust some of EnWiki filters for our projects but I'm not that good with the regex syntax. I needed to get 5 filters in total and Xaosflux already helped me out with 1 of them. You can see our discussion here to learn more if you're interested. I need help with Abuse Filter #29 - New user removing speedy deletion templates, to make it work with our SD templates. If I give you those, can you help me a bit with it? :) - Klein Muçi (talk) 18:27, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

@Klein Muçi: Sure! If I have a list of the templates I should be able to easily put together some regex for you. Best, MusikAnimal talk 00:10, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Oh, thank you! :) We use {{grise}} and {{delete}}, the later being a redirect to the first one. ("Grise" is just Albanian for "delete".) - Klein Muçi (talk) 06:32, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
@Klein Muçi: This should work:
user_editcount < 50 &
removed_lines irlike "{{\s*(delete|grise)\s*(\||}})" & 
!(added_lines irlike "{{\s*(delete|grise)\s*(\||}})")
Change the user_editcount as desired. Note also this doesn't allow for users to remove self-requested deletions. Here we have a dedicated template for that, and we allow that one to be removed. This edge case probably isn't as prominent on your wiki. In all likelihood I doubt you'll see many false positives. Best, MusikAnimal talk 17:21, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Thank you a lot! That really won't be a problem. Can you help me with the other remaining 3 filters? I'm posting the next filter I need help with here and if you don't have time anymore, just say so and I'll try to ask somewhere else for help. :)
Abuse Filter #50 - Shouting - I want this to be applicable in all namespaces because we do get a lot of vandalism like this in many different NS, like Wikipedia/Wikiquote, Help, etc. - Klein Muçi (talk) 19:01, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
@Klein Muçi: Sure, just change page_namespace = 0 to equals_to_any(page_namespace, 0, 4, 5) (adding whatever namespace IDs). Or just remove that line entirely if you want it to apply to all namespaces. mw:Extension:AbuseFilter/Rules format documents the syntax and available variables in AbuseFilter, if that helps. Best, MusikAnimal talk 19:05, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! And what about Abuse Filter #231 - Long string of characters containing no spaces? I get what I need to do for the filter to work on all NS now (thanks to you). Other than that, should I change anything else? I ask because I'm not sure what the last line there serves for. - Klein Muçi (talk) 19:21, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Actually, now that I see it better... How does AF/231 change from AF/135 - Repeating characters? I think I should get only 1 of them. Which one would be better for catching vandal actions with random words like asdjglksdfj/lsadijer,noiveiz.nvxc? Also, do you need our Albanian terms for "file" and "image" or are they not needed?
Other than that, I need help with only 1 more filter and I'm done. :) - Klein Muçi (talk) 21:31, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
@Klein Muçi: Sorry for the late reply. I would imagine Special:AbuseFilter/135 is going to catch more vandalism, but mind you this filter was designed for editors with an English QWERTY keyboard. If your keyboard includes accented characters (without hitting shift or anything like that), the filter might need to be tweaked a bit. There's no harm in copying it over to your wiki and keeping it in log-only for a while, just to make sure there are no conflicts in Albanian. MusikAnimal talk 00:49, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
No worry. :) I mean, our language does include 2 characters like that: ç/Ç and ë/Ë but we all use QWERTY keyboards usually and have to do those symbols with Alt combinations. Usually. So AF/135 it is then. :P Do I need to do any tweaking to it regarding those symbols or our terms for file and image? - Klein Muçi (talk) 01:11, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
No, if QWERTY keyboards are the norm and you have to use Alt to add accents, the filter should work as written. MusikAnimal talk 22:15, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
Okay then. Can you explain to me what are its limits? What it can and can't do? I only ask so I know what to write at its description. If my question isn't clear enough, let me give you an example. This is what's written in the description of the anti-shouting AF/50: The filter blocks edits that contain only large print letters from new or unregistered users. The filter becomes active in the 13th uppercase letter and allows the use of magic words and other similar commands that use capitalized words for useful purposes. - Klein Muçi (talk) 04:23, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
@Klein Muçi: I didn't write filter 135, but I understanding is that it's basically looking for long strings that contain no vowels. In English it's rare for any word to not have a vowel. So for instance the filter would catch random typing on the middle row of the keyboard (keys ASDFGHJKL). It also attempts to exempt characters that are part of a URL, since URLs may contain random characters. Hopefully that answers your question. MusikAnimal talk 20:51, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Also, I'm taking the liberty to ask for the final filter I need help with so you can answer for both inquiries when you do have time. :) I need one filter to fight profanities. Filters are the best way to do this, no? I'd like it if we had a Mediawiki page we can add text to and it would automatically block that text used anywhere on the project. I'm 80% sure a page like that doesn't exist so filters it is. :P You have a lot of filters against this kind of vandalism. What do you suggest me to get? Also, definitely I'd need the most help in this one because of the nature of the filter itself: It needs to be able to filter different variations of the same word. - Klein Muçi (talk) 05:16, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Special:AbuseFilter/384 is a good example of disallowing "bad" words. Just replace line 7 (bad_word := ...) with a list of profane Albanian words, separated by pipe characters. So bad_word := "foo|bar|baz"; would disallow the addition of the words "foo", "bar" and "baz" (case insensitive). Keep in mind these could be part of a larger, constructive word. You can get around this by using the \b word boundary token. So let's assume "foo" is a bad word, but "food" is a good word. Your regex should look like "foo\b|bar|baz", such that "foo" doesn't match "food". Hope this makes sense, MusikAnimal talk 20:51, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
Thank you again for both of your answers! :) I was able to set up the filter. Can you give it a look and group some similar words together? I'm not sure how to do that. Or any other optimization you can make. Can it be made possible so no one can use those words in the project? Maybe only crats/admins? Link - I hope to learn from your actions and maybe I can use that information in the future while I add or remove words from it (or on any other filter). Our speedy deletion filter would benefit a lot from being only crat/admin allowed too.
Also, can you take a quick look at all our 5 filters here and see if everything seems to be all right and maybe optimize the syntax of some of them if that's needed? Most probably they'll be the only filters we'll have for a long time so helping us for a double check would be a great help. - Klein Muçi (talk) 00:12, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Oh, and can you actually really delete a filter? I deleted the first one I created because I was just doing it for a test but it isn't really deleted. At the link above you can see our numbered list starts with the number 2. - Klein Muçi (talk) 00:18, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Just a friendly, smol, reminder for this discussion. - Klein Muçi (talk) 08:43, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
@Klein Muçi: Sorry for the late reply. All of your filters can be bypassed if you have a confirmed account (or autoconfirmed). This is good, because more experienced editors are less likely to vandalize and hence any hits on the filters would probably be false positives. Filter 3 is the one exception, which looks for an edit count less than 50. To restrict to admins, you could replace user_editcount < 50 with !("sysop" in user_groups) (I assume your crats are also admins). You could check for any number of specific groups with something like !contains_any(user_groups, "sysop", "bureaucrat"). I quickly looked at your filter implementations and they look good to me, and appear to correctly working too. You can't delete filters like you can a page. Instead, you just mark them as deleted so they don't pollute the list at Special:AbuseFilter. Hope this helps! Sounds like you have everything you need, but as a FYI, we have many AbuseFilter experts at WP:EFN, and mw:Extension talk:AbuseFilter also has many watchers. I of course don't mind helping at all, but you may get quicker replies at those venues. Best, MusikAnimal talk 16:25, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for replying! :)) The reason I didn't write anywhere else was because I was at the end of my problem, if you understand what I mean.

Final question: Is there a way to group similar words together at our 6th filter? The list just keeps getting larger and larger if I put every possible variation of a word/expression. If I'm not wrong, I've seen some of your anti-vandalism filters work by groups like that.

PS: I've seen you're from New York. I really hope these hard times will be over soon for all of you. Stay safe! - Klein Muçi (talk) 16:52, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

@Klein Muçi: Yes. There are many features of regular expressions you can take advantage of. It's a bit too much to explain here, but if you want to learn more there are ample resources online. The token to match any given single characters is probably one of great use. So ab[cde] will match "abc", "abd", and "abe". Just remember the more complex the regular expression, the harder it may become to maintain. Also note that without word boundaries some other words are inherently matched. For instance pordh|pordhe|pordhë could just be pordh because the other two include "pordh". These two tricks should trim down your list some.

Thank you for the kind words. Fortunately, New Yorkers are tough. We will be fine :) MusikAnimal talk 21:30, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

I sort of knew that theoretically because you explained it to me before with the foo/bar/baz example but still I was a bit afraid to implement it at the beginning. But now I tested it and it works. Thank you! I was able to remove many words. And thank you for teaching me a bit of regex in general! :) - Klein Muçi (talk) 00:05, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
My pleasure :) MusikAnimal talk 02:31, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

TAFI

Hello MusikAnimal: Something I noticed, at Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement/Schedule, MusikBot did not select an article for week 17, so it's all red-linked on the page. If you could look into this, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your consideration, North America1000 00:46, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: I think something went wrong with Toolforge because I noticed errors with my other bots, along with other tools. If you're able to do it by hand that might be best. The script unfortunately would have to be rewritten to retroactively fix older weeks. Sorry! :( MusikAnimal talk 21:39, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 Done. Thanks for the reply. I manually added an article from the Wikipedia:Articles for improvement page directly to make it work (link, link). The bot appears to be working fine after this occurred, so hopefully that will be it. North America1000 21:48, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Great! Glad it was that simple to fix. I'm fairly certain this hiccup was beyond our control, but it seems like Toolforge is stable again so I wouldn't worry. Hope all is well, MusikAnimal talk 02:32, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

18:45, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Imports of templates/modules

Hey MusikAnimal, I was curious why you imported a bunch of templates/modules on April 1? Especially since it appears they were imported from Wikipedia, given that's the interwiki prefix that was used for the usernames. I noticed this after importing some of these templates/modules to another wiki and looked through the changes only to see most of them had no actual changes and some interesting edit summaries. Thanks! ディノ千?!☎ Dinoguy1000 02:50, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

It was a mistake :( See this discussion. What actually happened was I was importing templates from both Meta and enwiki into another wiki, and at some point I got my browser tabs mixed up and imported a Meta template here. Amazingly it didn't seem to cause any noticeable problems since that template originated here too, but I did make this edit to my personal CSS to ensure it doesn't happen again. The steward powers were working against me! MusikAnimal talk 03:01, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
Aah! I was actually thinking it might've been some April Fools' ploy that I just wasn't around to see. At any rate, I think there are a couple of new Phab tickets in this... ディノ千?!☎ Dinoguy1000 01:11, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
phab:T250771 and phab:T250772 ディノ千?!☎ Dinoguy1000 01:24, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Uw-copyright-org

Template:Uw-copyright-org has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 03:10, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

April 22, 7pm: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC

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This week's article for improvement (week 18, 2020)

Elements of the human body by mass. Trace elements are less than 1% combined (and each less than 0.1%).
Hello, MusikAnimal.

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Human body

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Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Wishing MusikAnimal a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Aasim 01:45, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

A message from Northmetpit

Hi MusikAnimal. Some help please. A recent edit to the Norfolk Coast Path by Jonathan.barber includes a map of the path. On the commons page he's added that he has third pary permission to use it. I'm not sure about copyrights. Can you take a look please. Thanks Northmetpit (talk) 13:38, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Northmetpit! Have you asked the user about this? At the very least the licensing information needs to reflect the origin. However I am not an expert in this area (especially for Commons), so if you are unable to resolve this with Jonathan.barber directly, I recommend raising your concerns at c:Commons:Village pump/Copyright. Hope this helps. MusikAnimal talk 19:24, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi MusikAnimal. Thank you for your swift reply and advice. I will follow that up shortly. Cheers Northmetpit (talk) 09:29, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Some Thoughts about the Edit Counter

Hi MusikAnimal,

despite the IP-adress, I am a long term contributor with account in the German Wikipedia. I use the edit counter since a very long time and am always happy to see how many people read my (mainly politics-related) articles ;-) Hence, thank you very much for it.

To the hard facts: I have some ideas for improvements. Firstly, in the German version which is directly linked (though with a very small font) under each article on the very end of the page as "Abrufstatistik", the first item appearing directly below the graph on the counter page is "Seitenaufrufe", which roughly means "page impressions" or "single reads". Random Example: CIA. As you can see, in this article this is about 14.000 - but: There is no reference time span provided to which this number is related. For me it is easy to calculate that it is the whole month, but by a newbie or persons not having any clue about the popularity of the WP, this may easily be wrongly interpreted as the "Overall Count" since whenever. Hence, it would make great sense to provide the reference time span directly behind the term "Seitenaufrufe" or so. I understand that this might be not as easy due to the fact that the user can change the time span.

Second and more signifcant to me: It would be great to have an "Overall viewing count" since day 1 of the article - shown as a standard without having to modify the chooseable time ranges. This creation date might also be provided, e.g.: "Since the creation of this article on 12-10-2004, it was accessed 26.736.925 times." This is of course not of great practical value, but would give an (no question) astonishing impression to each viewer and particularly to the article authors, because I think this would generally make for an impressive number - further signifying the relevance of the WP, but also giving the authors some joy ;-) And to be honest: For the hundreds of hours of work put into it, the sense of achievement (from other folks than other WP authors who often just complain and critize) an author gets is awfully low, namely and typically zero ;-) I assume that the summing up over years can not be carried out each time the counter is accessed - maybe this might be solved by doing it only once a day (or even less often) and caching this result, or similar. The number needs not be exact to the per mil during the whole day, I might add ;-) Just my 2 cents - otherwise, a great tool. Thanks again. 217.7.150.122 (talk) 07:58, 1 May 2020 (UTC) Edit, some time later: Just saw that the counter has an earliest chooseable date somewhere in 2015, hence my "whole count" idea is - hm - probably impossible. My above example 'CIA' has one million since then. 217.7.150.122 (talk) 08:36, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello! The Pageviews Analysis tool (not to be confused with the XTools' Edit Counter), should say the date range directly below the chart and on the left side under "Letzte". However it sounds like you're talking about changing the text of the link on Wikipedia. For this you just need to change the interface page de:MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyright. You'll need to ask an admin to do this for you. Hope this helps, MusikAnimal talk 15:41, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

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