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You're an admin. but you think that's "vandalism"?

Uh, I see that you're an admin for some reason, but then you still think that merely removing a cluttery abbreviation that's there just to be there (and then modifying some following references so that they're recognizable even with the silly abbreviation gone) is supposedly "vandalism." This isn't "vandalism." Vandalism is blanking a page or a section or typing nonsense like "alkguxouwwalnvu" or something like that. Where did you get the strange idea that removing clutter (just like ViberSnake thinks having these abbreviations is a fixation that someone has) is supposedly "vandalism"?

75.169.16.76 (talk) 07:37, 1 March 2015 (UTC), the person who used to have the IP address who made those changes.

Hey there, could you point me to the article in question, or your other IP address? It's of course possible I made a mistake but I can't comment as I'm not sure what you are referring to. MusikAnimal talk 16:47, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

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16:41, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello from George8211

Hi it's me again. I see you deleted Shadiya. What about the creator's userpage -- ie is it offensive? —George8211 / T 19:43, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

@George8211: Looks like it was aimed at a living person, so yes. You can safely tag stuff like that as WP:G10. Thanks for letting me know :) MusikAnimal talk 19:47, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

User talk:72.94.237.143

Just a quick FYI re: your post at User talk:72.94.237.143#Vaporizer (inhalation device). This is a sock of User:Timothy Sheridan. They have a very long history on Wikipedia promoting their websites, as well as making other unsubstantiated claims about being responsible for the origins of the internet, hypertext, etc - see past ANI threads:

As a result of their excessive IP hopping and edit warring at Talk:Vaporizer (inhalation device), that talk page was semi-protected earlier today (the last legitimate non-autocomfirmed edit to that talk page was over 9-months ago, so seemed the lesser of two evils to semi for a week). That's what caused the latest IP to spill over to wp:RFPP and its talk page. --- Barek (talkcontribs) - 20:36, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Good to know, thanks for the thorough explanation :) I've got to get more familiar with all the long-term abusers. MusikAnimal talk 20:38, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
FYI: Due to their activity today, I've also started a new thread at WP:ANI#Persistent disruption by Timothy Sheridan. --- Barek (talkcontribs) - 21:06, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello from George8211

Since you're the first person I could think of, can you keep an eye on Hanafi please? There's ongoing vandalism/blanking but I have to go now. —George8211 / T 21:03, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Sure thing. MusikAnimal talk 21:06, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello from HkCaGu

AIV formatter is surely mysterious. So what was the difference? HkCaGu (talk) 19:21, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

If you're referring to this I'm not exactly sure what happened. I copied the asterisk from the embedded comment, put it on a new line, then the bullet correctly appeared. Who knows... MusikAnimal talk 19:25, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 04 March 2015

15:18, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello from Pilotusa

You've deleted an article based on "unambiguous copyright" issues. I posted the article, and own the "copyright" and administration of the website from which the article was derived. There is no infringement if the owner of the copyright posts the article. Please resinstate "Catholic Universalist CHurch" in its entirety. Let me know what verification you need that I have permission from myself to use the material. Pilotusa (talk) 14:11, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

@Pilotusa: Hello, the page creator was notified about what to do if they were the copyright owner. Are you the same person as Ginoparadela or is that someone you work with? We aim to make all content freely distributable, so anything borrowed from other sites must be released under a compatible license. This is simply for legal reasons. See WP:DONATETEXT for full instructions on how to donate the text for use on Wikipedia. MusikAnimal talk 18:42, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
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Requested articles

Hi Musik, I've been looking into the requested articles project and I'm extremely interested in this and believe it's a noble cause. However as you probably know the project seems to be fully inactive and the coordinator, Matty.007, has disappeared entirely. I've noticed that your name is on the list of members and, if you're involved or not, I wondered if there's anything that you think can be done as far as reviving the project and cleaning it up a bit goes. There are a lot of good articles I just think a developed system needs to be put into place to clear out most of the bad ones and then start referring the goods ones to people who are interested. If you think it can be saved or it's worth doing anything with I'd love to hear from you. Thanks! Kharkiv07 (talk) 00:44, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

@Kharkiv07: Hey! I'm sorry to hear about Matty, he was a good editor! Maybe I'll try to email him and see what's going on. Anyway, I am also interested in the project. I just added myself today after seeing your post WP:GP (and I will agree that may not be the right venue to request a script). I have but a few articles to my name, so I figure helping out at this WikiProject would be a fun way to to get my article count up. As you might have guessed, I'm mainly looking to work on music-related articles. For these, I have a secret weapon of checking for biographies/backgrounds on AllMusic. This is by no means a definitive way of determining notability, but chances are if they're on AllMusic there's something to be said about them. This could be automated, as in have a bot go through and query AllMusic for each of the requested music articles and mark them as present or not present, but that'd be a terribly difficult script to write. Nonetheless it may be worth looking into, and something similar for other topics.
Perhaps first let's explore the proof of concept. We might introduce a system of marking the requests as checkY Notable, Question? Possibly notable and ☒NNon-notable, etc, along with a datestamp (as notability can change over time). The latter, non-notable, would be for the most obvious of requests that clearly will not meet the notability guideline. With notable subjects clearly indicated, article creators may be more attracted to the WikiProject. Furthermore we could integrate the lists of requests with their relevant WikiProjects. E.g. you'd go to WikiProject Music and see 250 requested articles on notable subjects, then a link to the page at WP:WPRA. MusikAnimal talk 01:14, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
That sounds great! I didn't realize what the page was that I added that request to, I was slightly confused, and the real page to request scripts seems like a bottomless hole that won't yield any results, but nonetheless if I can assist you in anyway I'd be happy to, even though I probably won't be able to. Anyway, keep me posted and tell me if you need anything. Kharkiv07 (talk) 01:20, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Hey I forgot to ask, with the hypothetical system you were mentioning will you be able to make it compatible with the ones already in the system? If not I can start working on re-formatting them (as daunting of a task that may be, but hey, it's not like i have anything better to do) Kharkiv07 (talk) 05:24, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello from 81.101.183.215

Sorryyyyyyyyyyy m9 </3 :( 81.101.183.215 (talk) 18:10, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 11 March 2015

Possible Vandalism

Or disruptive editing at the very least. @George8211 said that he also thought vandalism, but that it's unclear. Could have a look here when you have a chance and let us know what you think? Thanks! - Amaury (talk) 21:16, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Definitely. Article has been a target for a while apparently, probably due to the trade. Nothing but disruption from unconfirmed users since the last protection expired, so I've semi'd for another 10 days. Thanks for the report MusikAnimal talk 21:23, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
You're welcome! - Amaury (talk) 21:26, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
Now this latest user has been blocked indefinitely by Materialscientist. :) - Amaury (talk) 21:38, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Good afternoon. I am the primary source, first person knowledge, for the NWA Continental Heavyweight Championship history page. All of those shows you see on that page are mine. I worked them, I paid for them. That is all my blood, sweat, tears and money that went into those shows. I left the NWA and turned the promotion over to a friend of mine who renamed it Fusion. He left the NWA shortly after I did. There is NO link between the title history currently up on that page and the current promotion based in NC that is trying to link his title to mine. He wants a history...he needs to make it, to earn it, not bite off of mine. Thank you for listening and have an enjoyable evening. Siwrcw03 (talk) 22:45, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

@Siwrcw03: Hi. First off, sorry for reverting your edit as if it were vandalism. It was clearly made in good-faith. The issue I see is you're "talking" in the article. That is, it reads like commentary and lacks an encyclopedic tone. I don't know anything about the subject (I came across it while patrolling recent changes) but if there's something wrong with the page, you should try to fix it rather than stating what is wrong with it. From what I can gather, you're saying the Continental Heavyweight Championship has nothing to do with the NWA? So the entire Wikipedia page is misinformation? Let's talk more on the article's talk page, where others who are familiar with the subject can chime in. MusikAnimal talk 23:43, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

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Barnstar

The Userpage Shield
Good move on User:The Triple M. Cheers. Optakeover(Talk) 15:59, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
Why thank you! MusikAnimal talk 16:00, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello from Billca42

Thanks for your understanding with the "Silva Method" and related articles problem. Several articles in the human potential movement set of articles, such as ones on Esalen, est, Lifespring, Mind Dynamics had links to "Silva Method" which were just redirects to the general article on meditation. I really just wanted there to be stub for Silva instead of it forwarding to the general meditation entry. Somehow, I messed things up.

Anyway, thanks for fixing it and sorry for the trouble. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Billca42 (talkcontribs) 17:16, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Yosef Ben-Jochannan‎

Thanks. If the IP carries on edit-warring after the protection ends, I'll report them to AN3 if you don't block. Obviously I can't. Dougweller (talk) 19:36, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

@Dougweller: No problem, though assuming they're all the same person, we're looking at an IP hopper so page protection may still be the best measure. I've added it to my watchlist so I'll be keeping an eye on it :) MusikAnimal talk 19:41, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
You're probably right. Goddessofalkebulon is probably the same person as the IPs, or at least some. Could be meatpuppets. Continued protection would be good. Dougweller (talk) 19:49, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

CatcherStorm

Hi, Thanks for reverting that rubbish on my talk page. I'm a bit surprised that you only gave this loser a low-level templated warning for attempted racial abuse of me and blantant vandalism of my talk page though (I'm white, but there's no reason for you to have known or assumed that). Nick-D (talk) 10:01, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

@Nick-D: Wow, I must have not noticed that this was on a user talk page. I think I thought they were calling themselves that. Being on your talk page it's clearly a direct attack at you that warrants a 4im warning by any standard. I've scratched out my original notice and issued the 4im. Sorry about that! MusikAnimal talk 14:46, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for that. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 22:00, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Nick-D's edit to user page

Being on Wikipedia for nearly a year now I strongly condemn personal attacks.

I didn't do this. I left my Wikipedia logged in at my school's library and my friend made this edit. I contacted him and he admitted to doing it. If you don't believe me, trace my IP address. Trace this message's and the edit's IP address. They are different.

Nevertheless I strongly apologize to Nick - and I understand anything done on my account, even if done by someone else is automatically my fault. I simply wanted to clear this up.

The StormCatcher (talk) 22:46, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

@CatcherStorm: Makes sense, you didn't have the track record reflecting that kind of behaviour. However surely you understand if it continues we'll have no choice but to take a preventive measure such as blocking. Also note accounts deemed compromised are blocked indefinitely, so you should try to be more careful. I always log out, albeit it is in admin account, but either way a good habit to get into. Thanks for the note. Best :) MusikAnimal talk 22:50, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for understanding. The StormCatcher (talk) 22:55, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Permissions request

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?&oldid=649177780#User:Devwebtel Am I ready now for pending changes reviewer?

Devwebtel (talk) 21:26, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

@Devwebtel: What's the rush? If it's counter-vandalism you're interested in, rollback is going to offer you far more satisfaction than pending changes reviewer. The thing is 190 edits is quite low to be granting any advanced permission (no disrespect to the admin who granted you rollback). Pending changes reviewer may require more experience than dealing with run of the mill vandalism, such as familiarity with BLP & copyright violations, etc. I have a good feeling you're not far off but I'll have to say I'm still a bit uncomfortable granting it at this time. You can of course still apply at WP:PERM/RV, I won't decline it. A few pointers: You can use Twinkle to issue warnings, which might make it easier for you. Also, since you're doing so well with rollback, why not give some semi-automated tools a try? Huggle and STiki are powerful tools to patrol recent changes and keep the wiki clean, just be careful not to go too fast with them :) Best MusikAnimal talk 21:39, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
I use twinkle, but where is warn option (i can see only more rollback buttons)? Devwebtel (talk) 13:19, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
@Devwebtel: See the documentation. If done correctly, after rollback a vandal's changes, Twinkle will open a new window of the user's talk page. From there, assuming you're using Vector skin, go to TW > Warn and select the appropriate warning. MusikAnimal talk 22:44, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

On the matter of UK Xmas number 1

Hi there I seen you posted me a message and as I have been stating to the last two people who I have contacted over this matter it is not vandalism I am trying to set the record straight as spice girls where never Xmas number one please refer to http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/all-the-number-1-singles__7931/ as they are the regulators of the charts here in the UK and they even show that spice girls were not Christmas number 1. I have tried and fixed the page regarding this matter but every-time I do someone keeps changing it. So can we please keep the changes as The Official Charts Company regulate this so they know who was number one and when.

Thank you and I hope you can help me.

92.29.36.88 (talk) 19:30, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Hey! Sorry you are having trouble. I reverted your edit as it appeared to be unconstructive, song titles shouldn't be in all caps like that unless that is actually how it is presented. I believe there may be a simple misunderstanding, however. That page is for the list of #1 Christmas songs, whereas the link you've provided lists the #1 songs of any genre (or so it appears). I recommend bringing up your concerns on the talk page where others can chime in. Thanks! MusikAnimal talk 19:42, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
I have put my concern in the talk page twice now, No one replies. And as for the link I have provided yes it is for all genres as Christmas number 1 is the number 1 the Sunday before Christmas or Christmas day, If you'd scroll down to the years I have changed you would have seen that the spice girls weren't on the list for Christmas number 1, I do understand that I have edited it wrong. I am kinda new to this but I want this matter to be over as it bugs me about Christmas number ones. I hope you understand that I am not being a vandal or I am moaning/Trolling of sorts I do have the proof so if you'd please fix it I would be so grateful. 92.29.36.88 (talk) 19:51, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
No worries! I realize you were acting in good-faith and we'll work to get the article accurate, and we can of course help you with any formatting errors. I read through the talk page, looks like according to that article what constitutes the #1 Christmas hit is the #1 song during the week of Christmas, so the date of the chart hit may actually be after Christmas. If we to follow this convention I believe the list in it's current form is correct. Whether or not that's the correct system of determining the #1 Christmas hit is up for debate, and again is best left to be discussed on the talk page. So I would leave the article as-is until consensus decides otherwise. Thanks for your understanding, and your noble efforts to improve the accuracy of this article :) MusikAnimal talk 20:04, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for trying to help but as you may see there is alot of nothing basically in the talk page there are however a few people with the same thought as me and I have phoned The Official Charts company earlier today and they have even stated to me that it is the Sunday before Christmas or if Christmas is on a Sunday it will be that day, As I have already shown you the real charts I would presume you can see my frustration in this as no one on the talk page can come to a conclusion and the talk page has been inactive now for a while. And as you can see that they are the regulators of the charts they would know who and when they charted. Sorry for coming off angry but I am really frustrated by this. 92.29.36.88 (talk) 20:19, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Have you tried to gain input on the talk page? A relevant discussion hasn't taken place in over three years. I think a new discussion is needed in order to get any input. Once you've started the discussion, I can post on your behalf at Wikipedia talk:Record charts and Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Record charts to get broader input from the community. If consensus cannot be reached we can seek dispute resolution. This is generally the approach we take in content disputes like this. Mind you also the article is a featured list, meaning it has been identified by the community as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. This further validates the need for consensus before changing the long-standing system of what constitutes #1 Christmas hits. Worry not, through discussion we'll collectively determine what is best for the article. MusikAnimal talk 21:01, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
I might also add that it seems to me that the chart ending on or after Christmas day would reflect hits of the prior week, and hence would represent the #1 hit on Christmas day. MusikAnimal talk 21:04, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

As you have stated no one has came to any consensus and no one has even added anything on the talk page for a while, And I would like to add that for a Christmas number 1 it has to be on Christmas day or the Sunday before if you call The Official Charts Company you will find that they say that is right, Therefore the link I sent you would be right. As I have stated a few times The Official Charts Company are the regulators so they do know what they are on about. I have emailed the website people refer to about this as they are wrong on this case. The website I am speaking of is everyhit.com they do not regulate the charts so they can't be classed a reliable source. I would say the most reliable source is the Official website of the charts. I hope you can see what I mean about this, No one is seeing the point about the website everyhit.com as people keep saying they are a reliable source when how can they be more reliable than The Company who run the charts.

Thank you for your continued help about this matter.

92.29.36.88 (talk) 09:44, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Reviving the discussion was the right thing to do. I'll help you get more input from the community. I'm still confused how they could announce the #1 hit before it has even happened. I as a listener am interested to know what the #1 hit was on Christmas day, right? Therefore it would have to be on after that day to state what was the #1 hit. Anyway, despite what the charts company says, Wikipedia consensus may differ, and we'll have to go by that. Again I will notify other parts of the community about the discussion. Best! MusikAnimal talk 14:22, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

I am just going to give up on this anyone who uses the talk page keeps using everyhit.com as a ref and I keep saying they can't do that as The Official Charts Company are the regulators so they are a better ref, And as for anyone who mentions the papers in the UK I have checked a few of them and they too use everyhit.com or another paper who in turn use that website. I am just sick of it now that everyone trusts a website that doesn't even run the charts as more reliable than the website who does run them. And to answer your question Here in the UK the charts are released every Sunday, so say Christmas is on a Friday like this year, The Official Number one will be released on the 20th, Not the 27th as people keep trying to say. It is always the week before Christmas as that will be the holder of #1 for the next week or more. And another reason I will be given up on this matter is that it seems to be that anyone who talks on the talk page is american, Like yourself who don't understand, Please don't take offence by this, But I don't see how Americans can say that a website like everyhit.com when if you live in the UK we know who was #1 and we know that The Official Charts Company are the ones the are right.

I hope you understand my points I have made here and I will come back and check to see if you reply but as for the talk page I have posted my last comment now, I give up. Thanks for trying to help but it didn't work. 92.29.36.88 (talk) 15:18, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Note that per http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart/19971221/7501 , the IP seems to be misreading the source.—Kww(talk) 19:51, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
I think the link that Kww provided says it all. I selected 25 December and it gives us the chart ending on 27 December, with Spice Girls at #1 for the year 1997. And that is the Official chart, so at this point it seems indisputable what the #1 Christmas hit would be, as far as I can tell. Sorry there's been so much confusion, or that you feel your efforts are fruitless. Whether you realize it or not your input has helped form a consensus, which is a good thing – so thank you! MusikAnimal talk 22:56, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

15:15, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

G'day!

Hi there MusikAnimal. Just took a moment to glance back at enwiki, and was very glad to see that the drop-down menus gadget has been revived. I left it in a very unkempt state, so I hope you didn't grumble too much while bringing it up to speed. One minor thing I have found (FF 36.0.1) is that since the submenus are positioned just on the edge of the "parent" menu element, it's possible for the cursor to fall in between the two when moving it over to the submenu, triggering a mouseout and causing the menus to vanish. Maybe a slight amount of overlap might fix this, or a small delay timer? In any case, well done, and I hope you enjoy maintaining it! ATB, haz (talk) 01:33, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

@Haza-w: Wonderful to hear from you! I actually wrote the Vector version of the script from scratch. Every bit of it was heavily inspired by your work, so thank you for all of your efforts. The non-vector version is still untouched, from what I can tell. I was unable to reproduce the bug you mentioned in FF, but I'm using a Mac. I'll get to a Windows machine and give it a whirl. Thanks again and I hope one day you'll find yourself back as a regular on the wiki! :) MusikAnimal talk 16:00, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

An article I put up for a AFD didn't appear on the users talk page for some reason

Elizabeth McGee Younger yeah for some reason the afd didn't go on the persons talk page. Wgolf (talk) 16:25, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Buggie111 adminship

You know, if you're gonna oppose the least you can do is refrain from giving the man false hope for the future. Lets be frank: people who say "try again later" don't give a damn about the "later" rfa, they never have, and I can all but guarantee that one year from now if the rfa fails you will not be the first one lining up to offer the editor a second chance. I don't care that you've opposed, but unless you genuinely intend to comment again on the next rfa come hell or high water then leave out the "I'll consider/I'll support" line and just tell it like it is. In the long run, isn't that better and fairer for both of you? TomStar81 (Talk) 04:36, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

@TomStar81: Hi, I'm a bit surprised. You've got me all wrong... I am a genuine guy (or so I like to think) and I mean what I said. I've commented at about every RfA over the past year or two and will comment at the next (assuming I'm still here, I hope!). And certainly the very last thing I want to is to discourage other editors... I don't see that with the tone of my !vote, and am confused how you interpreted it that way. In fact I almost wrote on Buggie111's talk page more or less strongly discouraging withdrawing – which I do, because I know how RfAs work which along with being for better or worse very difficult to pass, can be a very brutal and painful experience for a candidate who is simply not prepared for it. I know the nomination was made in good-faith but I'm afraid there's more of a concern of turning things sour than attaining administrative privileges. If anything, I apologize if I unintentionally came off strong in my opposition. MusikAnimal talk 04:51, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
Alright then. Sorry, I got my admin right on try 3, and plenty people gave me the "try again later" line and then were noticeably absent during that third successful attempt despite efforts to get them to participate in it. I thought that unfair, so based on hard learned lessons at rfa I'm usually suspicious when line like that appear on an rfa I have some interest in. TomStar81 (Talk) 04:54, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Sunrise Yachts

Whom it may concern; We have information called "sunrise yachts" that we would like to share on the Wikipedia,somehow every time that we have entered the information on it,it has constantly denied by the reviewer,even tough ,we have edited our written subject more than couple of times,it didn't accepted by you guys.Please help us to get our information corrected,and be reviewable.thank you in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ucfikir (talkcontribs) 15:13, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

@Ucfikir: Hey! I'm afraid there are several concerns, mainly the the article was an unambiguous copyright violation. See your talk page for more details. You are welcome to make another attempt at creating the article, but you will need to do so through our articles for creation program. Please use the article wizard to create your draft then you can submit it for review. A few things to keep in mind... Wikipedia is not for advertising. Since you work for the subject you should be careful not to exert a conflict of interest, in other words try to maintain a neutral tone and don't try to encourage the reader to like your product. Finally, understand we have a notability guideline that organizations must meet in order to be included on Wikipedia. Please ensure your organization meets this guideline before going any further. Hope this helps, and sorry my advice could not be more favourable. Best MusikAnimal talk 15:19, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Nokia Technologies information.

I updated according to the info for the new company. It was sourced through website. But i will add third party references soon.

The universities section is a part of research center which is different from Nokia technologies.

I will create another article called Nokia research center for the same.

See resp websites

http://company.nokia.com/en/our-businesses#nokia-technologies and research.nokia.com/.

Please restore my edit.

and Nokia research center is not one of three businesses of Nokia and hence should be in different section than operations.

....sorry for writing like this as i am typing through tablet...... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.200.95.52 (talkcontribs)

Hi, I understand you are trying to improve these articles. However you are replacing sourced content with unsourced content, which is not a good thing. Furthermore you removed all the formatting and layout which adhered to our manual of style. Finally, some of the content you added was copied and pasted from another website, constituting a copyright violation. Sounds like you just need help updating the articles. My advice is to figure out what you want to add, make sure it is in your own words, then state what you'd like to change on the article's talk page. From there someone (or me) can add the content for you to ensure it stays inline with our manual of style. We of course don't expect everyone to know how to format things, but I do ask you refrain from breaking the format so we can help you correctly add the content. I'm watching the pages, so again just post on the talk page and I'll get to it shortly. Best! MusikAnimal talk 16:33, 17 March 2015 (UTC)


Ok Musicanimal, i agree for copyright stuff.

But what i want is Nokia research center and nokia technologies are different.

Please Spilt their information properly.

and remember Nokia research center is not one of three businesses of Nokia and hence should be in different section than operations.

THe base line is a reade shouldnt have wrong information...

thanks... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.200.95.52 (talk) 16:36, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Second Opinion

Hello. I contacted Materialscientist last night, but I haven't heard back since he seems to be a pretty busy guy, so I thought I'd ask you. :) I'm pretty sure this user's contributions are disruptive, at the very least, and I reverted them a few times, and I just wanted to get a second opinion. Looking at it, they were reverted by Snowager and ClueBot NG as well. - Amaury (talk) 16:18, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

@Amaury: I want to say the disruption is intentional, but to be on the WP:AGF side I left a friendly note on their talk page. If it continues we'll be forced to block, however, despite any good intentions. Best MusikAnimal talk 16:26, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you very much. - Amaury (talk) 16:48, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Computer help

Hey, MusikAnimal, I need help from a computer geek, and you're one of those I know on Wikipedia. I just posted this message at the computer reference desk, not a forum I go to often. Could you take a look at it and see if you can help? Based on my own knowledge of computers, I know that just because one knows about computers doesn't mean they know anything about a particular area of computers, but I figured I'd ask anyway. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:54, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

@Bbb23: Oh boy. I'm a geek indeed, and proud to say it, but unfortunately I'm not too knowledgeable on email clients :( Us web developers hate email because the email clients are still way behind on HTML5 standards. So we have to code them like we did in the 90s, back when we were still "webmasters" (web developer joke, no one uses that term anymore). I did some Googling myself about your issue – a nifty trick I use is to filter the results to only within the past week, or 24 hours, whatever's appropriate. This is useful if the issue abruptly started happening as you say, perhaps to a recent change in service configuration or something like that. Anyway I couldn't find anything, so it may be unrelated to any recent changes made to the Outlook and Gmail services. Sorry I could not be of more help! MusikAnimal talk 18:10, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
(edit conflict) You are such a kick. I remember webmasters well, actually. Thanks for checking, and thanks for the tip about filtering Google searches (apparently, I can't add a parm - I have to use advanced search). I'll let you know what happens. Best.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:21, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
@Bbb23: Another thing: I've also never sought answers at the Reference Desk. Sounds cool but there may be better off-wiki venues for those types of questions. All the StackExchange websites are quite good for getting answers fast, for your problem I'd say WebApps is the most appropriate. Hope this helps MusikAnimal talk 18:18, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
Sigh, I sometimes hate the Internet, even though I'm near helpless without it. I tried posting a question at WebApps as a guest. When I click on "Post Your Question", it does nothing, no error message, no post, everything looks the same as before my click (the question is still there with all the fields filled out).--Bbb23 (talk) 19:14, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
Good news. It didn't fix itself on its own, but I went to the Google gmail help forum, and there were posts about the exact same problem from earlier this month. The conclusion was to disable IPv6, although no one understood why that resolved the problem, and everyone wondered (without success) whether disabling IPv6 would have any collateral damage. In any event, I disabled IPv6 on my PC, and Outlook works perfectly now. I don't suppose you know much about IPv6 and whether I'll have any problems with it disabled?--Bbb23 (talk) 22:11, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
@Bbb23: Glad you got it figured out! My guess is your version of Outlook doesn't support the IPv6 protocol. I found this document on Microsoft.com that you can check and verify if that's the case. I wouldn't be too concerned right now but somewhere down the road you'll definitely need to update your Outlook or switch to the web interface, once IPv4 is phased out. That's maybe like 5–10 years, a wild guess. There could be other issues if your ISP is enforcing IPv6 or something, but that I'm not too sure about. MusikAnimal talk 23:21, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
Microsoft's document doesn't make sense (what else is new?). I've had IPv6 checked in Outlook 2003 for years with no problem, and the reason it stopped working is ?? Anyway, I don't want you to do any more work than you already have. I'm just pointing out the inconsistency in their statement and reality. I know I should update Outlook but I don't like giving MS money. Thanks for everything.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:29, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Good point! I wish I had a logical answer. At any rate definitely don't pay for an upgrade! You should just move to the web client, it's very full featured. Or try another desktop client, specifically Thunderbird, which is by Mozilla and hence guaranteed awesomeness free of charge (though I'm still a Chrome user). Evidently with Thunderbird there's no set up effort, just login and let it do the rest. I think I'm going to try it myself, actually. And for the record, it's always a pleasure to be of any help :) MusikAnimal talk 00:49, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the tips, but when I look at all those desktop programs, it sounds like they assume I'm using Google's contacts, calendar, and tasks. I'm not and don't want to. In some ways, I'm unhappy with even having a gmail account as I don't trust Google, but I don't feel like changing and am not sure that any other web-based e-mail accounts are any more trustworthy. I'm a heavy user of Outlook's calendar, contacts, tasks, and even their so-called journal articles. Switching to something else would be require a lot of work on my part (I'm cheap and lazy). I'm reluctantly coming to the conclusion that I will have to shell out some money to upgrade Outlook. Maybe my WMF expense account will take care of it. And maybe ANI will become a garden of flowers and peace.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:01, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi MusikAnimal. I lodged a report at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Vygorthopics to report the repeated SPA creation for vandalism to L. If you think it should be closed as the users have been blocked please do so, otherwise I can remove it myself. Optakeover(Talk) 16:32, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

@Optakeover: I went ahead and closed it and semi'd the article. Not sure what to about the tags on their user pages, I'm just going to leave them as is. MusikAnimal talk 16:41, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Requesting immediate action on Justin Day

Justin Day was tagged by me for G2, and page creator keeps removing the tag and editing it without attempt to improve the article in response to CSD tag. Any chance you could do something about it? Optakeover(Talk) 17:03, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. Optakeover(Talk) 17:11, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
No problem MusikAnimal talk 17:13, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Display this proudly

The Original Barnstar
Thank you for your help with my requests. We are now fighting a big rush, and I'm feeling the heat. Thank you for your help, your admin actions are indispensible. Optakeover(Talk) 17:17, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for barnstar!! My pleasure to help out in any way :) MusikAnimal talk 17:21, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Thanks for stopping the Doctor Quax (talk · contribs) attacks (rhyme totally unintentional). I appreciate your hard work! NickContact/Contribs 22:05, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
You bet MusikAnimal talk 22:07, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


I'm not quite sure how much good limiting editing to admins for a few days will do. If you look at the edit history its a pretty lame didpute, imo fundamentally about a prerferred wording of Ion Nemes's "some sources calim", which I maintain is weasel wording & implies "some sources deny these claims". Memes is an SPA who pops up intermittently on this page. I really dony see an answer...block him & he'll likely pop up under another name, likewise for a topic ban. Oh well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheLongTone (talkcontribs)

@TheLongTone: Well we have to try. I considered focusing my attention on the SPA, but it appeared multiple accounts were involved on both sides of the dispute(s). We'll get it figured out on way or another. If disruption continues blocks may be in order, and we can always semi beyond that if sockpuppetry becomes an issue. MusikAnimal talk 14:49, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Hmmm. Well I know I'm not a sock or a sockmaster (I'm sure everybody says that), and I would be very surprised if Binksternet, Steelpillow on DonFB were not entirely above board. The IP editor I would not care to comment on.TheLongTone (talk) 15:29, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
The dispute is due to the fact that the reference says "according to some accounts" about Vuia's claimed hop of March 18, but Longtone is insisting on changing the text so it does not match the references. And now he's insisting on other changes saying that Vuia was the first person to ever achieve such a hop on level ground in a wheeled airplane. This in spite of the fact that Clement Ader, Horatio Phillips, and Karl Jatho are all accepted by historians to have acheived longer hops years before. The issue is further complicated by his abusive name calling. I don't believe that calling an editor a obsessive monomaniac is accepted wikipedia policy. Furthermore, Binksternet is engaging in tendentious editing by only responding on the talk page with statements unrelated to the subject under discussion. I assume this is an attempt to make the talk page look as if he is actually discussing things when he isn't. I firmly believe that the page should actually reflect the reliable sources used for references, and not contradict them. However I am reverted whenever I do this, and Longtone insists that he will continue to revert any edit to make the page agree with the reliable sources referenced therein. So I find myself in a position where there can be no discussion because binksternet and donfb refuse to discuss anything and longtone refuses to adhere to the policy of using reliable sources(and the policy of no personal abuse). This means it is unlikely that there will be any consensus reached during the next few days. It also seems that when the block expires, I will be reverted immediately and accused of edit warring again. Do you have any advice in this situation? I can substantiate my statements here easily if you wish.Ion G Nemes (talk) 04:28, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

And as for the IP editor, his arguments are identical to longtone, as are his insults. I actually suspect that it is not a coincidence. As soon as he was banned for 6 months, Longtone started filling in for him in both editorial opinion, and abuse. Ion G Nemes (talk) 04:33, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

User:MusikAnimal/rollbackTouch.js

Hi, I'd like to use this script User:MusikAnimal/rollbackTouch.js, but am getting errors when I try to copy it into my page User:Gaff/common.js. Can you show me exactly what to copy/paste? Thank you! --Gaff (talk) 15:35, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

@Gaff: Just copy this code and paste it at the bottom, on it's own line: {{subst:iusc|User:MusikAnimal/rollbackTouch.js}}
Note also confirmationRollback-mobile.js which will still allow rollback on mobile but require confirmation. Cheers MusikAnimal talk 15:38, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
Done. Just to let you know, it gave an error warning: "Warning: Label 'subst' on iusc statement." I did confirm that confirmationRollback-mobile works fine, so not sure what that error warning is all about. --Gaff (talk) 15:49, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
You can ignore that error. Glad you got it working :) MusikAnimal talk 15:50, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

I would like to ask for your advice once again, so I may know how to deal with such articles in future.

I witnessed an edit confrontation on this article, and upon reviewing its contents, I believe that the article did not assert the notability of the subject, and a Google search only pulled some information on some academic articles he was quoted in. In addition, the article creator kept adding information without proper citations and sources, and also is using an image which is a direct copyvio and not licensed as he said it is (already tagged for CSD on commons).

Please advise, and thanks. Optakeover(Talk) 18:47, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

The article has been significantly shortened and has been tagged for CSD by another user , and despite that I would like your opinion on whether you think the earlier revisions warrants a CSD nomination or should go through a lower procedure. Optakeover(Talk) 18:49, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
Meh. I think I got my answer. Thanks anyway. Optakeover(Talk) 18:57, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sachin_G_Lokapure&diff=652108396&oldid=652108176 I must of not saw that part-there was so much editing going on that it was getting crazy. And I had to put it up as a afd as the prod kept on getting removed. Wgolf (talk) 18:58, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

@Wgolf and Optakeover: I don't think the article meets speedy deletion criteria, if not just by a hair, as there's some claim of significance. The user appeared to continue to work to improve the article but their sourced additions were continually removed. This isn't good. The AfD may be fully justified but you should not interfere with their work in the interim. If it was a mistake, no worries, that happens, just try to be careful. I think the user is fully acting in good-faith and we should not be so quick to dismiss their efforts. Best MusikAnimal talk 19:06, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. The only revert I did was when a bunch of templates were removed by the anon contributor, but it was your reason that made me decide to message you initially. But I had my question answered when I rubbed my eyes and saw it was an AfD nomination, not a CSD tag. Optakeover(Talk) 19:09, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello MusikAnimal

Dear MusikAnimal, I finally notice that User:GJZHA is another suspect for User:Nikolas.Sudarpo, the account was created just 15 hours after all his master are blocked on 17/03/2015. GJZHC (talk) 02:46, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

I just noticed this template you created, and I think it's great! I run into WP:COI editors all the time who copy and paste text from their websites. This is a concise warning about why that isn't acceptable. I've requested that it be added to Twinkle [40] as another single-level warning option. --Drm310 (talk) 15:22, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

@Drm310: Thanks! It would be quite handy to have it as part of Twinkle. I also have {{uw-copyright-img}} which is the same but for when they've added copyrighted images. I'm familiar with the Twinkle codebase so I can create a pull request to add these two, or at least the -org. Cheers MusikAnimal talk 15:39, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
Oh, nearly forgot, both were from User:Diannaa/Copyright. Dianna gets all credit for the idea and the well-written concise message. I just turned it into a template :) MusikAnimal talk 15:41, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Blocked User's Talk Page History

Hello. Materialscientist blocked a troll last night for repeated personal attacks and death threats on the talk page of this user with a Japanese name and removed all of the edits from public view. The user then continued their disruptive behavior and death threats on their own talk page, seen by the history here. Materialscientist revoked talk page access, but I think he forgot the edits on their talk page. Due to the nature of the content, all of the edits, with the exception of my only warning, should be removed from public view. Regards. - Amaury (talk) 18:42, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Page deleted. Don't really need a notice or anything, that's not their first account from what I can tell. MusikAnimal talk 19:04, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 18 March 2015

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15:10, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

rollback confirmation script.

hi.

some small suggestions for the rollback confirmation script:

  1. make the prompt more meaningful by capturing the name of the editor and the article names and displaying them as part of the prompt. this will help reduce the chance of rolling back the wrong edit (when called from recentchanges).
  2. capture and use the actual link text (the word "rollback"). this means that when rolling back from article history, we'll see something like "are you sure you want to rollback 3 edits" ("rollback: 1 edit", "rollback N edits" and "rollback more than 10 edits" taken from the rollback anchor text)
  3. most importantly (IMO): instead of "confirm" use "prompt". if the user does not enter any text, "ok" returns empty string, and "cancel" returns null, so the "confirm" functionality is preserved. when the user _does_ enter text, augment the rollback link with "&summary=" + encodeURIComponent(whatever), to allow (but not enforce) rollbakc summary.

admittedly, this will bump the script from 5 lines to ~11, but i think it worth it. peace - קיפודנחש (aka kipod) (talk) 20:00, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

 Done except #3. I think using 'prompt' to allow for a custom edit summary is an excellent idea, but for this script I merely want to require confirmation for the same rollback functionality. A separate script is in order, though! Thanks for the suggestions :) MusikAnimal talk 15:17, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

"Evan" vandal

There's one more sockpuppet out there, Evanwang2212. Would you like to block them? Thanks, Altamel (talk) 17:13, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

 Done Thank you MusikAnimal talk 17:17, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Cyclone Pam

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Cyclone Pam. Legobot (talk) 00:06, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

A poem (entitled) Socrates • en.wikipedia.org tools.wmflabs.org

Hi dear MusikAnimal,


I looked at the stats for my edits on Socrates

it seems they're faulty help me please,

to know the reason for my woe,why my Top 10 added text percentage does not grow,

and 6.2 percent is all both values show.

i added bytes but no difference to the value did it make,

if you don't help i might just throw myself into a large frozen icy lake,

(or perhaps bake a chocolate cake,and not stay awake,and sometime in the future eat hake)

with bread and mashed potato on a plate , yours sincerely User: Whalestate (talk) 07:29, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

p.s. I noticed Inquiries that rhyme or are in the form of a haiku will be given priority — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whalestate (talkcontribs) 07:39, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

@Whalestate: Beautiful poem! Haha and please do not throw yourself into a frozen lake!! I live in New York and the bodies of water around here have just finally began to succomb to our belated spring. As for XTools, it runs off of the replication database, so there may be some lag. Changes to the article won't always immediately be reflected. I don't see the 6.2% figure you speak of, so I'm guessing the stats have since caught up. Cheers MusikAnimal talk 15:47, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello from Leicaphotos

speedy deletion for page Blake Billings was in error - I own the copyright to all cited material as well as books.

The error was, I feel in error

Thanks, Blake Billings www.blakebillings.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leicaphotos (talkcontribs) 15:37, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

@Leicaphotos: Hi, please see the message that was left on your talk page. You will need to put the proper licensing in place in order for the text to available for use on Wikipedia. Sometimes however it may be easier to reword the content altogether. See WP:DONATETEXT for the full instructions. Until then must refrain from adding copyrighted content, this is simply for legal reasons. Thanks for your understanding, and let me know if you need help! MusikAnimal talk 15:43, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
OK, I'm new to the wiki thing -- I have noticed many of my peers do have a wiki page -- Here's my content, bio, and info in wiki format -- not sure how this would happen and would welcome any help in making this happen -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leicaphotos (talkcontribs)
@Leicaphotos: Hi, no worries I am here to help. First off again please do not post the copyrighted content anywhere on the wiki, rather it be my talk page, a mainspace article etc. We need to get the content properly licensed before it can be put on Wikipedia. Please follow the instructions at WP:DONATETEXT. Thanks MusikAnimal talk 15:50, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
@Leicaphotos: Actually hold off... the content may need to be rewritten anyway. This is because it reads like an advertisement, and has a strong promotional tone. For this reason I highly recommend simply rewriting the content from scratch. Consider starting a draft article at Draft:Blake Billings that we can work to improve before moving it to the mainspace. Let me know what you think. Sorry I did not catch this issue at first, it's been a busy day for me. Best MusikAnimal talk 16:13, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Fastest SPI close ever!

Take this gold star!

Seriously, I have never seen one that fast before. Fiddle Faddle 18:36, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Ha! To be fair this was in response to an AIV report. And to be honest, if it's that obvious I'm okay with it being reported to AIV, even though that's not what it's intended for. I hope other admins would agree. Best MusikAnimal talk 18:39, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Comcast IPv6

Just FYI, I converted this block to a rangeblock of the /64 since that is what Comcast typically allocates to each IPv6 subscriber. Also, in case there is some additional cleanup needed, I also found that two more of their addresses were vandalizing the same article, so feel free to extend the rangeblock if it resumes. Cheers ​—DoRD (talk)​ 19:05, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

@DoRD: Will do, and thank you for realizing the need for a rangeblock. The IPv6 ranges in particular make my head hurt. That Zayn Javed Malik article was quite a mess to clean up. Without any opinion on the boy band itself, I find it very selfish that Mr. Malik didn't consider the disruption he would cause on Wikipedia before leaving One Direction. The nerve of that guy! Best MusikAnimal talk 19:38, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello from 168.215.139.83

This IP is registered to a school, and it is impossible to stop vandalism coming from this IP. Please ban this IP to prevent students from adding bad content. Could you enable account creation please? Thanks.168.215.139.83 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 19:02, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi, vandalism from school IPs is very common, and we do procedurally issue lengthy blocks based on contribution history. Here however no vandalism has occurred since the release of the block, so I simply don't feel comfortable blocking yet. For schools account creation is normally disabled, but this is only the case for the first 24 hours after the block is issued. Best MusikAnimal talk 19:27, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) Students caught behind a "account creation blocked" block can always go here Request an account and have an account created for them. Mlpearc (open channel) 19:40, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, didn't realize I posted in the wrong section :P Mlpearc (open channel) 19:47, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
No problem! And thank you for making the important point that account creation is an option. We certainly don't want to shut out any aspiring editors. MusikAnimal talk 19:53, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
Thank you for blocking abusive accounts CookieMonster755 (talk) 19:59, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
Fortunately the WMF pays me copious amounts of money, so all in a day's work =P Thank you for the barnstar! MusikAnimal talk 20:33, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello from bijounh, contributor to Philip Kubicki Factor Bass article

Hi, I see that you've asked for references in the Philip Kubicki Factor Bass article. Phil and I wrote this together the year before he passed. He is the source of the material but it was given to me verbally. He is responsible for all of the content. So, he is the perfect source but this came from him verbally and we spent several fun weeks improving what was a rather vague article on his creative process and creations. How would you like me to handle this? He was quite satisfied with the results. Thanks, Jewel Bijounh (talk) 14:39, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

Thanks for semi-protecting Mike Pence. I was about to request pending changes or semi-protection on it. I think we'll have to watch for vandalism on Indiana related pages for the next few weeks. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 20:40, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
No problem, thanks for the treat! MusikAnimal talk 20:48, 26 March 2015 (UTC)