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Spelling

Spelling: pediatrics. This is a fully acceptable, British spelling of pediatrics. However, as per wikipedia policy, the spelling throughout an article should remain consistant. Policy gives no preference for British or American spellings. Given that this article's title is Pediatrics, it makes little sense to use the British spelling throught the article. Of course, it makes sense to mention the spelling and to keep the British spelling where used as part of an organization's name. Rklawton 16:07, 29 April 2006 (UTC) peaches More on pediatrics versus paediatrics i think "pediatrics" and paediatrics are all the same.from Ridge Essilfie[reply]

There's a slight semantic difference associated with the difference in spelling. In the USA, a pediatrician (US spelling)is a primary care physician who specializes in children. A similar situation exists in Germany. In UK and the Commonwealth generally, a paediatrician (British spellling) is a specialist physician not in primary general practice, sees patients who are either urgently admitted to hospital or who are referred by GPs, and often has had longer post-graduate training in child health than a primary care pediatrician. A paediatrician in this sense could fairly be described as an internist subspecializing in infants & children. In Australia, paediatricians (like me) are fellows of a college of physicians, which has adult & paediatric sections. This was the situation in the UK till the late 1990s, when the specialist paediatricians split off to form thier own college.

I am considering editing the article to this effect. Any comments?

--DavidB 02:57, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Major edit: I rearranged the existing material into sections, made the edit foreshadowed above, and added a bit extra to history.

More work needed, especially in sections 1 and 2, plus more references needed.

--DavidB 08:40, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Since there is no national association of this topic, I would believe that the spelling used in the language's hub country should be favoured. Therefore I believe the title of the page should be changed to "Paediatrics."VladJ92 (talk) 05:38, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia practice is to retain the original spelling style of the article when there is no clear national association and no consensus otherwise on which spelling style to use. See WP:RETAIN. Since this article used US spelling originally (and for most of its history), it should retain that spelling style. Kaldari (talk) 08:59, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The correct spelling is 'paediatrics' because 'pediatrics' would mean someone specialising in feet.
'Ped' means 'foot', hence pedal, pedometer, pedestrian.
'Paed' means child.
BTW, 'paed' is pronounced as 'peed', not 'ped'.

Academic Training Section

Renamed section - previously just 'education' (which at ifrst I thought to mean paediatrics within education, rather than academic training/requirements)

Also, it's solely about the US requirements and standards, I don;t know enough to update it myself, but it should be flagged as such.--Cooper-42 14:33, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The first note on this discussion page should read consistent where it says 'consistant'.

sorry, παιδι means "child" not "boy" changed children are important. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.19.217.139 (talk) 00:43, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

history section

I am deleting a reference to 'jasmine brown', said to be a famous pediatrician, as I can't find any reference to her.

--DavidB 21:27, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Instances of Paediatrician/Pediatrician

Changed it to be more congruous with the title except where it was a proper title. Seriously? American Association of Paediatrics? 71.178.20.195 (talk) 09:10, 2 April 2010 (UTC) Pediatricians are not always right about your children being sick you are hearing this from a real doctor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.170.111.203 (talk) 21:51, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

...What? 71.178.20.195 (talk) 05:05, 23 May 2010 (UTC) hello kitty — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.29.67.60 (talk) 16:01, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wookie-"paedia"

[in exaggerated "Australian-criminal" accent] As spellin' is required to be consistent throughout all Wikipedia articles, we are editing this article and changing the name of the journal Pediatrics (journal) to "Paediatrics" and the American Academy of Pediatricians to the American Academy of "Paediatricians" in accordance to Wiki policies .... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.24.203.245 (talk) 12:09, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Also pediatricians love to talk to little kids. Excuse me? Is this a blog? :s —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.216.177.172 (talk) 18:34, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dodgy dates in introduction

"The age limit of such patients ranges from 12 to 81 with the average age limit being 64 or 65 years of age."

I believe this statement to be false, don't have time to look up sources right now, but that age range is completely wrong. I'm deleting the sentence for now, but hopefully someone who knows or has sources can fix it. DrazharLn (talk) 02:27, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problem removed

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photograph of Great Ormond St Hospital

It is a pity there is photo of Hôpital des Enfants Malades, as this is claimed to be the first children's hospital (not Gt Ormond St). Can anyone source one? Zohre6 (talk) 16:53, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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UCSF Foundations 2 2019, Group 7c Goals

Expand on information within "Differences between adult and pediatric medicine" and/or add new sections to discuss the following topics:
1. Pharmacokinetic properties during development (absorption, elimination, distribution, metabolism)
2. Factors affecting dosing difference in pediatric patients (dosing intervals differences between children, adolescents, adults)

Cpktruong (talk) 21:09, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Student review by (separate) Group 7B:
1. These articles substantially improve the article under Wikipedia's peer review framework. Especially appreciated was the brief, simple, and adequate introduction added before entering the PK (A,D,M,E) section. The group has met it's goals for the article.
2. However accurate the information presented is, the improved sections do not flow well together or within context of the entire article. The goal for Wikipedia is to simplify complex terms, concepts, and information for the average reader. Therefore, the different PK sections should "flow" better and match the overall language style of the rest of the article if possible to promote ease of reading.Wrd530 (talk) 20:53, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]


1. The edits of this article substantially improves the article. To further improve the Pediatric article, hyperlinks to more medical terminology may be helpful for the general population, such as "gastric emptying", "methylation", "acetylation", etc. Overall, the edits are very organized and easy to follow along.
2. The goals were met.
3. Prompt: Does the draft submission reflect a neutral point of view? Yes, this article conveys a neutral point of view and is unbiased. Jessicabee55 (talk) 21:32, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Group 7b Student Review
The edits substantially improved the quality of the article. The edits provided a lot of information but were concise and easy to understand. I agree that more hyperlinks for the scientific terminology would be helpful.
Both goals were met.
Are the points verifiable with secondary sources that are readily available? The references were from reputable journals and the articles were readily accessible. Alicewu95 (talk) 06:04, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fanny's Peer Review for UCSF Foundations 2 2019, Group 7c goals

1. Do the group’s edits substantially improve the article as described in the Wikipedia peer review “Guiding framework”?

The addition of pharmacokinetic properties greatly improved this article. Under Absorption, should "decreased acid section" be decreased acid secretion?" Also under Elimination's "normally developed kidneys," may be "full developed kidneys?"

2. Has the group achieved its overall goals for improvement?

This group did achieve their goals and acted information on pharmacokinetics and dosing factors.

3. Are the edits formatted consistent with Wikipedia’s manual of style?

Yes, the format is consistent with Wikipedia's manual of style.

Fannnypack (talk) 21:29, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Education requirements

I started reworking 'Education requirements' to present information in a chronological order (draft below). However, while editing, I'm finding that the content substantially overlaps with well-written content elsewhere on Wikipedia. The latter portion then overlaps with the 'Training of pediatricians' section. In comparing the content to the cited source, I found OR and the source material itself appears subjective. Perhaps the section should just be removed? Or reduced to a single paragraph and merged into 'Training of pediatricians'?

Initial draft reworking 'Education requirements': 

In high school, aspiring medical students are required to take basic science and math classes such as biology, chemistry, physics, algebra, geometry, and calculus. It is also advisable to learn foreign language and involvement in high school organizations and extracurricular activities is also encouraged.

In college or university, students must earn a bachelor's degree with relevant coursework in chemistry, biology, and physics. Undergraduate students are advised to take the [[Medical College Admission Test]] in their junior or senior year.

Prospective pediatricians then need to attend 4 years of [[medical school]]. Curriculum includes basic medical sciences like human anatomy, physiology, chemistry, etc., for the first three years. In the second year, medical students start to get hands-on experience with actual patients. In their fourth year, students focus on their chosen specialty.

Medical school graduates are required to attain 3 more years of [[Residency (medicine)|residency]] training, the first year of which is called [[Internship (medicine)|internship]]. Upon completing residency and passing a standardized national licensing exam, the student may then begin a 3 year fellowiship in their chosen pediatric specialty.<ref>{{Cite news|url=http://learn.org/articles/What_Education_Is_Required_to_Be_a_Pediatrician.html|title=What Education Is Required to Be a Pediatrician?|access-date=2017-06-14|language=en}}</ref>
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